#1056 - Dr. Mark Gordon & Andrew Marr

Joe Rogan (0:01)

Three, two, we need like a digital counter.

Three, two, one, whoo! If you're gonna drink that, Andrew, be very careful. It's 270 milligrams of caffeine in that bitch.

Mark Gordon (0:18)

Donate it, is that allowed?

Joe Rogan (0:20)

You can have that.

My friend Brendan drank one of those yesterday, and a cup of coffee, and then on top of that, he drank a, what did he have? Something, a venti with a shot of espresso in it from Starbucks, all doing it while he was fasting. So halfway into the podcast, he starts hurling, runs into the bathroom, throws up, then he comes back and then throws up in a bucket at the end of the podcast. Literally didn't make it out of the room. So there you go.

Andrew Marr (0:47)

He could have had a heated seat if he had to take a shit.

Joe Rogan (0:50)

Yeah, we have a heated seat.

Mark Gordon (0:53)

He got it, yeah.

Joe Rogan (0:55)

Yeah, caveman coffee, nitrogenated. It's basically like espresso with nitrogen in it.

You get used to it.

Mark Gordon (1:03)

Good, I'll take it before bed.

Joe Rogan (1:04)

Yeah, that's a good move. You'll have some weird dreams.

Mark Gordon (1:07)

I take espresso before I go to bed.

Joe Rogan (1:08)

Andrew, I'm not used to this clean-shaven Andrew. You look like a different human. You could sneak up on people.

Andrew Marr (1:13)

That's the point, man. My daughter's about, oh, about a year ago, said they had enough of the beard, so it had to go.

Joe Rogan (1:21)

When I was, well, when my daughter was one, a friend of mine died, and we, on the internet, we had all had this guy, Evan Tanner, who was a former UFC champion, and we had decided that we were all gonna grow beards for him, because he had this crazy giant beard.

And so a bunch of us on the internet did it, and I just grew this fucking werewolf beard. And then it got to a point where I was like, you know, time was up, I was gonna shave it off, and my daughter had no idea what I really looked like. So I shaved my face, she started screaming, she thought it was somebody else, and she started crying. And I'm like, touch it, this is my normal face. And then she's confused, she's like, I know that voice. Like, who are you? That's what it looks like.

That's-

Andrew Marr (2:02)

Oh, nice. Yeah, same thing happened with my boys. They were young too, so they had never seen me without it. So they thought you were a stranger, right?

Joe Rogan (2:10)

That's trimmed too. Then you see that, that's because we're on TV, I trimmed the cheek areas, because it'll creep up my nose.

I GQ'd it. Yeah, I'm trying to look fresh.

Mark Gordon (2:22)

Well, I have to admit the fact that after 30 years of not having a beard, meeting you, I ended up with that beard and then started speaking Arabic.

Joe Rogan (2:30)

Out of nowhere?

Mark Gordon (2:31)

Out of nowhere.

Joe Rogan (2:32)

How weird.

Andrew Marr (2:32)

It's more academic too, you know, when you're lecturing on the lecture circuit.

Joe Rogan (2:37)

Yeah. Of course. Yeah, well, but for a guy with your experience, that kind of beard is, it's normal. Yeah.

Andrew Marr (2:45)

Yeah.

Joe Rogan (2:45)

I mean, guys who have lived your line of work.

Andrew Marr (2:50)

I don't know, man. It's like counterculture. So anti-establishment in the establishment. Yeah. And it's part of it, you know, and like anything else, you get into, I don't know, it felt normal, right? So it was like a, probably a crutch a little bit and something that felt right for a long time.

Joe Rogan (3:06)

I don't think it's a crutch, but I think it's definitely like a mark of the occupation. Yeah. I remember I read Dick Marchenko's book. Am I saying his name right? Marchenko, Marchenko?

I read one of his books way, way back in the day.

Andrew Marr (3:20)

Like Rogue Warriors.

Joe Rogan (3:21)

Yeah, yeah. And they were talking about guys who would dress, they just, how they didn't fit in with like regular military guys.

Andrew Marr (3:28)

Yeah, no, totally, totally like unconventional would probably be the way to say it, you know what I mean? So not in with authority, not in with everybody being the same way, not down with uniforms, not down with using name and rank. We called everybody by their first name, grew our hair long, grew our beards wrong. It was just kind of a, you had to earn that right, you know what I mean? So that's part of it. Like, hey, I earned the right to be able to be autonomous, so to speak. And so that's kind of some of it.