#1055 - Bret Weinstein

Joe Rogan (0:09)

Boom, and we're live, how are you?

Bret Weinstein (0:12)

Doing all right, a lot of stuff is going on.

Joe Rogan (0:14)

A lot of stuff.

Bret Weinstein (0:14)

A lot of stuff.

Joe Rogan (0:15)

Since your settlement, Jamie and I were hoping that you would come in with one of those Paul Wall grills with like diamonds on it, and maybe some furs, pull up in a Cadillac.

Bret Weinstein (0:24)

Well, unfortunately, it's enough money to make a difference, but it's not enough money to no longer have to think about such things.

Joe Rogan (0:32)

Yeah, you could temporarily ball, though. If you were irresponsible and you didn't have a family.

Bret Weinstein (0:36)

If I didn't have a family.

Joe Rogan (0:38)

You'd get crazy for a couple months.

Bret Weinstein (0:39)

Yeah. Now, as it happens, it gives us room to think about how to replace our incomes. We have about two years at our current rate of burning to keep the family afloat.

Joe Rogan (0:51)

Yeah, for people, so this is a standalone podcast, so people can kind of, what you need to do if you're really interested in this, if really interested, is Google Bret Weinstein, and you will get the full story from beginning to end with Evergreen State College, where I'll just give you the short version of it. There was a bunch of what you would kindly call social active people, social justice warriors, people who, there's a movement going on in this country, and it's very aggressive. And one of the things that they wanted to do is they wanted to have a day where all white people stayed home. You thought that was racist. They thought you were racist for saying that was racist.

And they decided to literally take over the college for a short period of time. The dust settled. You just got a big fat settlement. You're out of there.

And so, and then the woman who was kind of at the head of it, she got a nice little chunk of change too, which I thought was quite odd.

Bret Weinstein (1:54)

Yeah, the college settled with her, even though it was quite clear she had no legal case. So there's a bit of a mystery about why they would have paid her to resign when in fact they could have just stood their ground.

Joe Rogan (2:07)

She could have probably become the president of the college if she wanted to. The way that guy had responded to the students when they told him to put his hands down because he was being threatening, and then he put his hands, well, he's talking to them and using hand gestures, and they're like, put your hands down. You're threatening us with microaggressions.

He puts his hands down, they all started laughing, which just tells you everything about what their intent was, what was really going on there.

And but after I saw that, I'm like, God, she could have been the president. They should have just had her be president. The whole thing was, it was a kangaroo court. It was mockery.

Bret Weinstein (2:40)

The whole thing was absurd. I will say, it's very hard to get the story right in any sort of short synopsis. And so for anybody who really wants, it's not even complete. But Heather and I, my wife Heather was also a professor at Evergreen, and we wrote a more complete version of the story that allows people to see how the internal politics of the college played out into what they ultimately saw on YouTube. So that's in The Washington Examiner last Tuesday.

Joe Rogan (3:08)

I read that. Yeah, it's deeply disturbing.

But it's not if you've been paying attention, and you and I and Jordan Peterson, and boy, a bunch of people have tried to figure out what's going on today. Like why has this movement become so aggressive and not just aggressive, but absurd? It's not logical. Like the way they're approaching things is from this very strange, entitled, and just oddly fanatical way.

Bret Weinstein (3:43)

You want to be careful not to mix what they say with what they're actually up to. Because what they say is very confusing. It can't be parsed logically. There's so many contradictions so close to the surface that one has the sense that they are deeply confused, and some of them are.

But there is also a strategic movement under the surface which we can't listen into directly, and it is more sophisticated than we think. In other words, it is managing to wield power in spite of the fact that its explanation for why it is entitled to wield power doesn't make any sense.