#1050 - Dr. Shawn Baker

Joe Rogan (0:07)

And we're live. All right, Shawn. Welcome aboard, man. Thank you. Thanks for doing this. Appreciate it.

Shawn Baker (0:11)

Thanks for having me, Joe.

Joe Rogan (0:12)

You're one of those guys that came up so many times on Twitter. I had to reach out to you. So many people were like, have you checked out what this guy's doing? He's eaten nothing but meat. And he's a doctor. And he's super healthy. I was like, okay, let me check out what this guy's doing. And I saw you, and I was like, he's serious about this.

And I was like, okay, this isn't a gimmick. You're actually an educated guy.

And you're pursuing this carnivore diet.

Shawn Baker (0:38)

Yeah, I mean, if you would have asked me...

Joe Rogan (0:40)

Pull this thing up close to you, if you could.

Shawn Baker (0:42)

If you would have asked me two years ago, I would have said, that's fucking crazy. I mean, that's what I would have said.

If you would have asked me even five years ago, I'd say, yeah, diet doesn't really matter that much. Just train your ass off, because I had been an athlete just training my whole life. And I didn't really, until I got in my mid-40s, and then all of a sudden I was like, crap, training ain't working. And I'm getting fat, I'm getting high blood pressure, I'm probably pre-diabetic. And then I went down this dietary journey where I went from doing the low-fat, low-calorie fish and vegetables, almost vegetarian, training three times a day, just about trying to get lean. And then I went down to, then I was like, man, this sucks, I'm miserable. I can't maintain this. Then I went on the paleo diet.

Started looking, I was like, man, bacon looks pretty good.

And then I went and I started reading some more. Then I went on to low-carb, high-fat. And then I did ketogenic for about two, three years. Because I think you do stuff like that too, Joe. And then I just started reading about these people that do this carnivore diet. And then I went and started reading.

Joe Rogan (1:45)

Where did you read about it?

Shawn Baker (1:46)

Well, there's actually a Facebook group. It's called Zeroing In on Health. There's a guy named Charles Washington. He's been doing it about 10 years. And so they got about 10, there's about 13,000 people, right?

Joe Rogan (1:55)

So he's been exclusively on a carnivorous diet for 10 years?

Shawn Baker (1:59)

10 years.

Joe Rogan (2:00)

So no vegetables, no carbs, no nothing?

Shawn Baker (2:03)

Nope. I mean, he basically eats, you know, I think he eats steak and pork ribs and stuff like that. And there's another guy, I mean, it's more impressive. There's a guy named Joe Anderson and his wife, Shawn. They've been doing it for 20 years. And then, you know, I could probably show you a picture of that guy, but he, I mean, he's 60 and he looks like he's 30 His wife is in his mid 40s and she looks like she's 25 I mean, they're, I mean, by all, by looking at these people, you're like, they're crazy healthy. You know, what happened was she had Lyme disease real bad and was kind of overweight and really sick. And he started doing like the same stuff I was doing. He's reading about these old school bodybuilders. You remember, I don't know if you remember, Vince Caronda.

So he promoted the steak and eggs diet back in the 1950s, 60s. And he was just jacked. I mean, he was, this is, you know, 1956, it was kind of before most of the steroid stuff was hitting.

You know, I mean, there were, there were still some steroids back in the 1940s. You know, the Nazis play with that, with the troop, but, you know, it didn't really get into the bodybuilding culture until probably the 60s, you know, and then the 70s, and now it's, you know, now it's everywhere, right?

But he was doing this stuff. And if you look up, if you look up Vince Garanda, and look at his physique from the 1940s, 1950s, he's friggin pretty amazing.

Joe Rogan (3:07)

And he's just eating meat.

Shawn Baker (3:08)

He was eating, no, his diet was basically, I think it was five days of just eating meat and eggs. It was steak and eggs. And then every, every one day, like every fifth or sixth day, you could eat, you know, whatever. So that's what, that's what he did. So that was his diet. So that's what he looked like back in 19

Yeah, that's probably in the 50s. You know, so that's pretty decent for back then. You know, I mean, for a non-steroid guy. I mean, this is...