#1029 - Tom DeLonge

**Tom DeLonge** (0:01)
I like the Art Bell build up, because it's so...

**Joe Rogan** (0:05)
Everybody likes the Art Bell build up.
The Art Bell sound, you know, what did he say? From the Kingdom of Nye. Right, from Pahrump, Nevada.

**Tom DeLonge** (0:15)
I used to always love Art Bell, because someone would call in and say, I'm a werewolf. And he would go, oh my, interesting, tell me more. Yeah, yeah, he didn't care.

**Joe Rogan** (0:25)
He never called you out on it. He just let you ramble, he had time traveler lines.

**Tom DeLonge** (0:30)
Loved that.

**Joe Rogan** (0:30)
We loved people.

**Tom DeLonge** (0:31)
Loved it, I never learned anything from it though.

**Joe Rogan** (0:33)
So you're obsessed with UFOs, right? Is that safe to say?

**Tom DeLonge** (0:38)
It's safe to say, but it's not so much just the UFO itself. I mean, I don't call them that anymore. We call these advanced aerial threats. They're different, but.

**Joe Rogan** (0:47)
Threats?

**Tom DeLonge** (0:49)
You honed in on a word we weren't supposed to really get into here in the first part of the show.

**Joe Rogan** (0:53)
Did you have a plan?

**Tom DeLonge** (0:56)
I have a very long plan, detailed plan. We're gonna start with my body. We're just gonna talk about my body for a lot.

**Joe Rogan** (1:01)
Okay, what do you wanna talk about in terms of your body?

**Tom DeLonge** (1:04)
Well, my body is interesting. It's unique.
And it changes shape. What I've noticed is it's just changing.

**Joe Rogan** (1:13)
Yeah, it's getting larger.

**Tom DeLonge** (1:14)
Larger, getting wider.

**Joe Rogan** (1:15)
Depending upon what you put in it.

**Tom DeLonge** (1:17)
But you're all, can I cuss?

**Joe Rogan** (1:18)
Yeah, yeah, for sure. We're on the internet.

**Tom DeLonge** (1:20)
You're so fucking fit. You shook my hand out there, you're gonna break my hand.

**Joe Rogan** (1:23)
I'm sorry.

**SPEAKER_3** (1:24)
I'm sorry.

**Tom DeLonge** (1:24)
Yeah, just don't be strong.

**Joe Rogan** (1:25)
I didn't mean to.

**Tom DeLonge** (1:25)
Don't be so handsome.

**Joe Rogan** (1:26)
Just shaking your hand. Just, I thought it was a handshake.

**Tom DeLonge** (1:29)
I know.
Well, it's one of those power moves. You ever see when Trump shakes people's hands and he pulls them in and he's like.

**Joe Rogan** (1:34)
Oh yeah, he does do weird shit.

**Tom DeLonge** (1:35)
He does weird shit like that, yeah.

**Joe Rogan** (1:36)
Yeah, I didn't mean to do that. Just meant to shake your hand like a man.

**Tom DeLonge** (1:39)
Well, I took it as like, know your place, motherfucker. This is my show.

**Joe Rogan** (1:44)
I didn't think that.

**Tom DeLonge** (1:46)
No, I'm just joking. Interesting.

**Joe Rogan** (1:48)
So, when did you get obsessed with this aerial threat thing? And why do you call them threats?

**Tom DeLonge** (1:54)
We'll get into that, I guess. But I got into it when I was in junior high.
For some weird reason, I had some time off, and I went to the school library in seventh grade, and I was like, damn, I gotta read some boring shit. What am I gonna read? And I saw this one book, and it had a picture of the Loch Ness Monster in a UFO mall. That looks cool. And I read that, and I was like, holy cow, these are real. It wasn't all science fiction. I mean, the way the book was laid out, I was like, these are real events. There's no way, really? And then when the band started doing its thing in the back of the van, there were no smartphones, so we were buying books.
And I would just lay there, we'd have 20-hour drives. And so I started buying books on the UFO phenomenon. And once you do that, it's a black hole, you're done.

**Joe Rogan** (2:41)
Yeah, it's definitely a rabbit hole. You get sucked into it.
At my house, I have a frame poster that's the cover of the Roswell Daily News that shows the day after the Roswell crash where it says that the Air Force came and recovered the wreckage and the whole deal. I've been obsessed with this shit since I was a little kid.

**Tom DeLonge** (3:00)
Yeah, I think that's by design. I think that this generation was meant to have this stuff come out.
But I can't prove that. That's just my feeling.

**Joe Rogan** (3:14)
What makes you feel that?

**Tom DeLonge** (3:16)
Because of exactly what you said. There's a lot of people.
I don't believe that some of the, I don't believe that some of the events happened on accident. I think that there's been a lot of events that are on purpose. Some have been for show. Some have been for, I mean, there's a variety of reasons, but I think a lot of it is a control system that's really pushing humanity in a very specific direction.