#1017 - Jim Norton

Joe Rogan (0:11)

Boom, and we're live.

Let's have a toast to Hugh Hefner. Yes. We lost one of the great dick slingers of the 20th century.

Jim Norton (0:18)

Certainly did.

Joe Rogan (0:19)

We lost him. He literally had a place where guys could go to be leches.

Jim Norton (0:26)

Yeah.

Joe Rogan (0:26)

You could just go and you had a mansion where everybody knew there was gonna be a bunch of hoes.

Jim Norton (0:30)

And that's why they went.

Joe Rogan (0:31)

Yeah, they went there on purpose, and there was guys that were notorious for hanging around the mansion, for going to all the mansion parties.

Jim Norton (0:39)

Did you ever go?

Joe Rogan (0:40)

I went twice. I went once for a marijuana policy project thing. I think that was the company that was putting it together.

Or I hosted something and there was bands and stuff like that. It was kind of interesting.

Jim Norton (0:52)

That's fun.

Joe Rogan (0:53)

And then the other time I went was for Fear Factor. We did something for Fear Factor with Playboy Playmates.

Jim Norton (0:59)

Do you get to meet Hugh?

Joe Rogan (1:00)

I never met him, man.

No, I never met him. He's just, I think by that time, he's old and I think he just wanted to chill.

Jim Norton (1:09)

Yeah, he was just kind of done. I never went there. I tried to get in, a girl tried to get me in and I guess they Googled me and I guess I didn't have enough credits.

Joe Rogan (1:16)

Oh, come on.

Jim Norton (1:17)

That's what it was. I couldn't get in. Really? They have to look you up and I, she was nice, but they said no.

Joe Rogan (1:22)

How long ago is this?

Jim Norton (1:23)

Probably two years ago.

I know. I didn't qualify to go, like I didn't qualify to go with those fucking girls and fucking. That is so crazy.

Joe Rogan (1:32)

You didn't have enough credits.

Jim Norton (1:34)

I guess so. Or maybe they didn't have the right credits or maybe they just didn't care.

You know what I mean? I wasn't even that mad, but I was like, ah, whatever.

SPEAKER_3 (1:41)

Wow, credits.

Jim Norton (1:42)

Yeah.

Joe Rogan (1:43)

How gross.

Jim Norton (1:44)

Yeah, she said something like that, but she was trying to be really nice. She was trying to let me down easy because she felt bad because we were friends and she wanted to go, like you just don't qualify to come here and look at these tits.

Which is really hurtful.

Joe Rogan (1:56)

It was a weird place because it was super outdated.

SPEAKER_3 (1:59)

You heard about the grotto. Oh, the grotto.

Joe Rogan (2:01)

You go to the grotto and has a phone from like the 1970s there. And you're like, what is this?

Jim Norton (2:05)

They left it probably for the vibe, the old school vibe.

Joe Rogan (2:08)

I guess, or they just never updated it. It was weird, like, you know, he sold the place or it was for sale. But one of the caveats of purchase was that he had to live in the building until he died.

Jim Norton (2:22)

Yeah.

Joe Rogan (2:22)

But it was like some preposterous amount of money, like $200 million or something crazy.

Jim Norton (2:27)

Well, the land is really valuable.

Joe Rogan (2:29)

Oh yeah.

Jim Norton (2:29)

So what do they do with that now? Do they knock it down? I mean, is there no nostalgia to it? Is it like kind of died on the vine anyway? Or do you fucking, what do you do?

Joe Rogan (2:37)

Well, he has a son, and his son probably inherited it. His son, I think, was running the magazine.

They tried for a while to have no nudity.

Jim Norton (2:45)

Oh, terrible idea. It's like a mechanic fucking thing with no cars in it. Who wants to just read that shit? It's stupid.

Joe Rogan (2:53)

It's like having a New York Times article with all ads. Like, where's the fucking intellectual stimulation here? You fucking idiots.

Jim Norton (3:01)

Yeah, it's like that's a really bad, no nudity is a terrible decision.

Joe Rogan (3:06)

Yeah.

Well, they were always in this weird area, right? Because Hugh Heffern was like the only acceptable pornographer. Like Larry Flint, who did a lot for free speech, who did a lot for exposing corrupt politicians, but they would show vaginas and assholes. And because of that, he was always thought as a gross guy.

Jim Norton (3:27)

Well, even their social commentary was great. I remember when I was a kid, there was one, who was the feminist Gloria?