#241 ‒ Living intentionally, valuing time, prioritizing relationships, and more keys to a rich life | Ric Elias (Part 2)

**Peter Attia** (0:11)
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Now, without further delay, here's today's episode.
My guest this week is Ric Elias. You may remember Ric as we released a podcast with Ric back in November of 2019 I think it was episode 79 We spoke at great length about his experience on flight 1549, also known as the miracle on the Hudson, in which his plane went down and was miraculously saved by Sully the pilot in the Hudson River.
If you haven't yet listened to that interview, I recommend going back and doing so prior to this conversation, because in this conversation, we don't really repeat any of that amazing story. And I think that that story alone is worth the price of admission. In this episode, we talk about a bunch of things. We talk about what's been new in Ric's life since the last interview, which has been over three years. We talk about raising kids and how we should think about our relationship with them as they grow older. Talk about the importance of looking forward and not looking backward and how that ties into aging. In fact, there's a line that I use in the epilogue of my book that came directly from a discussion about this with Ric. Talk about the importance of true intentionality in how we live our lives and how we often don't really value our time if we think about it in relation to that. Talk about Ric's view on relationships and the impact that you can have on others, the importance of staying true to yourself and the importance of struggles and more. This conversation is a great follow-up to the recent podcast with Bill Perkins. Both Bill and Ric have a lot of insights to share as we think about how we live our lives, how we live every day. And every time I speak with Ric, I learn something new and walk away with a new insight, something that I'm challenged by and something that I need to think about. As a reminder, Ric's the co-founder and CEO of Red Ventures, a portfolio of digital companies and hosts his own podcast called Three Things with Ric Elias. So without further delay, please enjoy my follow-up conversation with my dear friend, Ric Elias.
Ric, great to have you back and great to be spending time with you. Obviously, we had dinner last night, which was wonderful. So thanks for coming to Austin.

**Ric Elias** (2:48)
That was such a treat last night getting to see you in full dad mode and beautiful family and great meal and lots of protein.

**Peter Attia** (2:57)
Indeed, lots of protein. So although we're in touch constantly from the standpoint of the listeners, the last time they got to interact with you was probably almost exactly three years ago, 2019
Sometimes when I have folks back on, especially if it's a technical podcast, I kind of want to talk about, okay, well, what's new information since that time? Well, this obviously isn't very technical. Hopefully, folks remember a lot of the story that we talked about. But nevertheless, what do you think of as the highs and lows for you of the last three years? Because I know there have been both.

**Ric Elias** (3:27)
Gosh, Peter, go back to that time. And we had a specific conversation about leadership. And we were talking about leaders, our only leaders in a time of crisis. And we had talked about how the last decade had been super benign. And how do we show up in crisis? And then 60 days later, 90 days later, boom, COVID hits.
So a lot changed. If you think about it, the last three years have been the most tumultuous three years, no matter where you are in the world, not in any one country. And then you layer that with lots and lots of changes. My kids have gone to college.
My mother, which we talked a lot about in the podcast, and my father-in-law, and my aunt, which was like a second mom, all passed in that window.