What Nick Reiner Just Demanded From the Trust His Murdered Parents Left Behind

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This is Hidden Killers Live with Tony Brueski and Robin Dreeke.

**Tony Brueski** (0:07)
Let's go over to another case that we are continuing to follow here.
And taking your comments from YouTube and Facebook and Internet, we're going to try and answer some of them today. And if you got some on these cases too, please do drop them in the comments section and we'll try to get to them. Half of the comments treat the Schizophrenia Diagnosis here in the Nick Reiner case as the end-all be-all of it. It's like, well, that does it. End of day, he's sick. Some, well, he, other people survive just fine with this and don't go out and do these horrible, horrible acts. At the end of the day, that is probably going to be a big piece that is argued in court in terms of competency for Nick Reiner. But who knows? We are still very far away from an actual court date. Joining me to discuss Robin Dreeke, retired FBI Special Agency for the Counterintelligence Behavioral Analysis Program. So let's talk about that. Let's talk about the diagnosis there. Millions of people manage this illness, never touch anybody. At what point does, you know, he was sick, stop being the explanation and start being a way to stop thinking about this?
You're using it as a crutch or an excuse. I mean, and then how, I guess, how do you delineate into that gray area of, well, how much of this is the disease and how much of this is just him as a shitty person?

**Robin Dreeke** (1:41)
Yeah, I think it's all of it. I mean, he's just a cocktail of crazy stupid.
I think the broken brain part of him with schizophrenia, if that's what he's diagnosed with, is a part of the whole, because like you said, I mean, you do the research on it, schizophrenics tend to not be violent, but he's got escalating behaviors of violence and anger. He's got drug issue problems. He's got medications surrounding depression. It's a cocktail of really crazy, because when you put all that together in a brain soup, you don't know what's going to come out. And when you have triggers that keep escalating over time, you have parents that are doing their best, but at the same time, doing their best means that they're enabling the living shit out of him for a period of time and forever by thinking they can keep normalizing that broken brain by bringing them to people's parties, that he really shouldn't be going and interacting with human beings right now. And then when he himself, the main thing going on with him, besides all the cocktail of crazy is, he sees himself as a victim. And when you put yourself in the victim of the world's out to get me mode, everyone in your environment is going to trigger you. And then if you have no emotional regulations towards violence, anger and frustration, and you have no guardrails against acting out, there you go.

**Tony Brueski** (2:59)
Do you think that this is the motive, the money, that at the end of the day, obviously, going and killing them is not going to produce you getting money and freedom at the same time. Those two truths can't be really held together. But in a broken brain, it might be like, well, if I just get rid of them, then I'll get the money. But I do wonder, because if we go back to the, he was supposed to get all that money, the million and a half, I believe, on his 30th birthday, that didn't happen.
We get to his 31st, they're all out to dinner. There's a picture of them together.
And then obviously life continues on and things go absolutely haywire. You don't need to prove motive in court. But when we're trying to examine what the hell happened here, do you think it is as clear cut at the end of the day as he wanted his money and he was really mad about it and this is how he acted out, not necessarily as a lever to get it, but just as a petulant child, adult child, in a child, adult in a child or a adult child, adult, whatever, as an adult, basically with a child's brain acting out to get that money.

**Robin Dreeke** (4:11)
Maybe. And what I say by that is, it kind of goes to the adage, if someone's out to do harm to another human being, whether they have access to a weapon, a knife or their fist or a vehicle, they're going to do harm because they're escalating towards that and there's lots of triggering events along the way. I think him not getting his trust, him not getting his money and wanting his money as a petulant child, as you said, was an excuse that he was using potentially for his abhorrent behavior that he was having. So whether he actually, I mean, think about this, based on what we know of him from social media, from interactions, interviews, and statements by other people, can you actually imagine a world if he had gotten his trust that he would have had different behavior?