What It’s Like to Spend 24hrs with a Billionaire Who Plays Full Out

**SPEAKER_1** (0:00)
I have felt like a little bit of a pinch me moment, where I've realized a little, pinch me?

**SPEAKER_2** (0:09)
Just don't say that one.

**SPEAKER_1** (0:11)
Pinch me.

**SPEAKER_2** (0:12)
Yeah. I will pinch you if you ever say that again.

**SPEAKER_1** (0:15)
And I'll just say, ow.

**SPEAKER_2** (0:28)
What's going on over there?

**SPEAKER_1** (0:29)
What has been going on? We haven't seen each other in seven days and we've both talked to a bunch of interesting people. Have you enjoyed your time away?

**SPEAKER_2** (0:38)
I have. By the way, people are like, why do they do these separate? And it's like, dude, we live on the other side of the- I live in California. Sam lives on the far east coast. And so for us to do an in-person recording, it's like, hey, would you like to fly across the country for this day, today, just to record this podcast? And both of us have little kids. Neither of us want to do that. So if you see us doing one-on-one interviews with people, don't worry, me and Sam are still good. We just, we live really far apart. Okay, so here's the deal. In the last 10 days, both you and I have gone and done podcasts that have not come out yet. I think this will come out before those with guests who are incredible. So I think all of them are either billionaires or soon to be billionaires. But that's, the money is almost the least interesting thing about each one of them. Like what they did and how they roll, how they live is more interesting. And we did them in person. So for example, I went to Las Vegas, I went to Tahoe, and I'm basically staying at the person's house and I'm hanging out with them all day. And then the podcast is just kind of like a one or two hour recording in the middle of that day. But I'm spending 12, 24 hours with this person. And when you do that, you pick up a lot. And neither you or I have talked, but both you and I are kind of students of the game of life. And one of the ways you be a student of the game of life is you don't just try to do all the experiments on yourself, right? That's a pretty slow and painful way to do things. A faster, easier way is to go and get a little Costco sample of somebody else's life. I never had a fig before.
Let's go and try fig. Almond butter. Is this something I like? Am I an almond butter guy? And so I went and sampled these people's lives, and you did too. And so what I wanted to do, if you're down for it, is I think we each have three names of people we hung out with, and I want to take the one thing that stuck with you that was not in the podcast.

**SPEAKER_1** (2:27)
Man, we get to hang out with so many amazing people, and it absolutely wears off on you. Our world is business, but frankly, I find just the money part to be a little bit empty, and I think you agree with life is more rich than just money, but it just so happens that we like being people who are experts at their field, and the field is business, and so there's probably only 3,500 or 4,500 billionaires in the world, and I feel like every year we get to hang out with 30 of them. And again, the money is not the important part, but the fact that there's only 4,500 people of all the people on Earth who are in this category, it's pretty exciting to be around someone who's the best at their field, and it 100% wears off to you, wears off on you, where you start normalizing being in the 1% of whatever activity you're trying to be in.

**SPEAKER_2** (3:15)
Totally. Yeah, and your money point is right, which is even if we were just like, if I ran into Kobayashi on the street, I'd be like, this guy is the, I'd be like, honey, this guy is the greatest hot dog eater of all time. Now she wouldn't care, to be clear, but I would be like, it would be like meeting Kobe, right? He's the Kobe of eating hot dogs. And so, you know, excellence in any form is interesting to me. And anybody who gets an outlier result in a field that many people go try to choose, because it's always interesting. How did you get that? Because if you're interested in becoming an outlier in your field, you can actually learn from it in any field. Anyways, so you're right that our quote unquote job gets us access to this. Now, the giving part here is, we don't want to be selfish to just kind of keep for ourselves what we picked up. So let's jump in. All right, so I go hang out with this guy, Hayes Barnard. Most people don't know who Hayes Barnard is, but his story is pretty crazy. So the short version of his story is, guy grows up, single mom, kind of from the dirt in actually in Missouri. And he ends up sort of hustling his way into a job, a sales job, then a tech sales job, then he ends up at Oracle. And he works for Oracle in the 90s when Larry Ellison was, basically he was flip-flopping between Larry Ellison and Bill Gates is like the wealthiest man in the world.