**SPEAKER_1** (0:00)
This is Hidden Killers' half year in review. A look back at some of the most compelling cases of 2026 so far.
This is Hidden Killers Live with Tony Brueski and Robin Dre.
**Tony Brueski** (0:16)
Victoria Heuermann was 13 years old the last time her father killed. She grew up playing video games, 10 feet from the room where women were allegedly murdered and dismembered. I guess it's not allegedly anymore. When Rex confessed to her privately, she asked him a question that no child really should ever have to ask a parent and got an answer that will follow her for the rest of her life. The documentary captured a young woman trying to hold two truths that shouldn't be able to exist in the same person. Shavaun Scott is with myself and Robin Dre as we continue to break down chapter four here in the new Gilgo Beach doc or the fourth part of the Gilgo Beach doc, the Gilgo Beach Killer House of Secrets available on Peacock right now. Victoria said something in the documentary that really hit hard. She said, nobody really thinks about the daughter of this serial killer. She's dealing with depression, anger, her self-worth is destroyed. She's questioning why she's even here. What is the actual psychological weight of finding out your identity is now permanently tied to a parent's crimes? We've seen this in other cases. We've seen it with BTK and many others.
And everyone handles it a little bit differently. Some use it as a way to outreach and help other victims of trauma and abuse.
Some fall into addiction and depression and bad things. What's your take on Victoria and how she's processing all of this?
**Shavaun Scott** (1:53)
My heart really went out to her. I mean, she is, I think, a well-meaning person.
And it's just got to shatter your identity to know that the person that raised you that you had a certain belief about is a monster and her father is a monster. So I would expect the depression. I would expect the, you know, the shattered self, who am I? And again, she's going to have to recreate her identity. And I saw a lot of struggling with that. One of the things that she said that really concerned me, and this would be a place I would want to speak with her more about was the, the, I forgive him, you know, when they said, you forgive him. And she said, yes, because I don't want to carry the burden of whatever, however she put it, that it would be a burden to her to not to forgive him. That really struck me as quick forgiveness. And that can be a trauma response, because again, we're talking about sadism. Personally, I don't forgive sadists, you know?
Wouldn't matter who it was.
**Robin Drake** (3:03)
The only people that want you to are those nutters from IBLP.
**Tony Brueski** (3:07)
The umbrellas, yes.
**Robin Drake** (3:09)
Yeah, you know, I mean, yeah, I mean, there's evil. This guy was pure evil. He got pure enjoyment out of torturing others. He doesn't deserve forgiveness, and you're not a bad person for not forgiving him.
**Shavaun Scott** (3:20)
100 percent, 100 percent.
**Robin Drake** (3:22)
What kind of potholes or red flags you think others should be looking out for from her as she's moving through her recovery process that could be stumbling blocks for her? Like, what's the first one or two you think will be hard for her to move through that might pop up that others can notice?
**Shavaun Scott** (3:38)
Well, I think the depression is, she's gonna need a lot of help with that. And looking through the secondary trauma, because she is a victim too in this. And all the things that she's had to listen to and learn, that's gonna cause secondary PTSD for her. And that includes reliving the episodes, worried about how other people perceive her all the time. And it's gonna affect the trajectory of her life. Now, that doesn't mean it has to ruin her life, but it's gonna be a harder life than it would have been.
And I loved earlier in the episode where she was visited by Carrie Rossum, am I getting her name right? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
Who has really, really worked on her own healing and now helps other people. And I think that's a great way to go, is, you know, take what's happened to you, heal what you can from your trauma and then help other survivors. I think that would be a wonderful way to go. But Victoria has got to just be devastated, and this is fairly early into the whole thing. But yeah, forgiving him, this cultural myth about, oh, well, if I don't forgive, then I'm carrying the burden.
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