Was Nancy Guthrie Smuggled Across the Border the Night She Disappeared?

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This is Hidden Killers With Tony Brueski. Here now, Tony Brueski.

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There's a lot of theories out there about the Nancy Guthrie case, about what happened to Nancy. This week in a five part series, we are going to go through five of them. I don't know if they're the most popular, the most talked about. I tried to find the ones that I thought were the most talked about at the moment of this recording, but the thing is with theories like this, the biggest ones one week are not the biggest the next. They come and they go. So we're going to try and hit them all as best we can. And the thing with this is I want your opinions, I want your thoughts. If there's a hole in my debunking, if you will, or the information I'm bringing that points against this theory being something we can consider. If there's just strong evidence to the point that says, and here's where this makes this impossible. But if you think there's a way that it's not, all ears, comment section, okay? This is not to tell you you're stupid or you're wrong or whatever. This is just, okay, it's easy to get down some of these rabbit holes and go, okay, this seems like we get that confirmation bias going, I get it. But it's also good to have, as Robin would tell us, a loving critic, someone who can go, wait a second, all right? So we're going to start here. Press subscribe so you don't miss them. We're doing one a day, every day this week. The Puerto Vallarta private jet.
That theory, where Nancy was kidnapped, put on a jet, and flown in to Mexico. Here's kind of how it goes. And here's kind of what reality tells us about how many, how much legs the story should actually have. Nancy Guthrie's pacemaker lost his Bluetooth connection at 2.28 in the morning on February 1st. At 4.45 that same morning, roughly two hours later, a small private jet took off from Tucson International Airport headed to Puerto Vallarta, Mexico. Oh my gosh. Look at the timing. That's an unusual early departure for a Sunday, right? If I tell you it is, you probably think it is, right? If I say that's weird, is it really though? Or is it just because I'm saying it out loud and making you think that it's weird? Like somehow I looked it up and said, oh, it's weird for a private jet to be leaving that time of the day on a Sunday. Is it really though? Or is it just the power of my suggestion or whoever I heard it from? And now I'm repeating that information. Anyway, within days, keep that in mind, within days, people all over the Internet had connected those two data points into one of the most viral theories this case has produced. Nancy Guthrie was taken from her home and driven to the airport, loaded into that Cessna Citation Mustang and flown to a cartel stronghold in Mexico. Some versions connected to Sieging, the Giselo New Generation Cartel, the territory where drug lord El Mincho operated before his death. I understand why this one caught fire. When you lay out the timeline, it feels kind of real. Two events, same, just two hours apart. A woman who vanished, that's a clean narrative. There's a dramatic one too. There's a reason it became one of the single most shared theories in the entire case. But clean narratives are only clean until someone checks whether the pieces actually fit, so we're going to check. There's a detail about the suspect on Nancy's door belt camera that kind of kills the theory before we even get to the Mexico part. We'll get there. And the pacemaker, the thing that supposedly anchors the whole timeline. A doctor went on record and explained what that Bluetooth disconnection actually means. It's not what the internet decided it was. First, let's be fair about why this theory exists, because it's not coming from nowhere. Tucson sits roughly 60 miles from the Mexican border. Southern Arizona is a known corridor for cross-border criminal activity. Anonymous emails sent to TMZ demanded Bitcoin, a payment method, people associate with cartel operations or criminal operations. One of those emails claimed the sender saw Nancy south of the border in the Mexican state of Sonora. A private investigator named Bill Garcia went on the record with border reports, saying he believed the cartel was involved in a money-making venture. And the FBI formally contacted Mexican federal authorities about the case. If you're sitting at home connecting the dots, it doesn't feel crazy. It feels logical. The problem is that every one of those dots examined on its own falls apart. The private jet, the aircraft, was a 19-year-old Cessna Citation Mustang. Small, aging airplane, the FBI looked into this flight, they investigated it and they moved on. No authority has ever linked it to Nancy's disappearance, not one. And here's what the people sharing the theory have leave out. Private jets leave Tucson for Mexican resort destinations constantly. Puerto Vallarta is one of the most common routes. A plane departed in an airport in a time window near an unrelated event. That's a coincidence. The internet decided it was a clue. Those are not the same things. Planes do leave the airport at odd hours.