**Nigel Jason Hammer** (0:04)
You're listening to The Hammer and Nigel Show. Hello, my name is Nigel Jason Hammer, right over there with a very special guest on the hotline.
**SPEAKER_2** (0:13)
Some say he looks like JD Vance.
Some say he looks like Samuel L. Jackson. We simply call him The Tonus, Tony Kinnett of The Daily Signal and The Tony Kinnett Cast joining us. How are you?
**Tony Kinnett** (0:27)
I'm good. I love the Return of the Mac, Mark Morrison in. That's actually the bumper that I use when I do other radio hits. So I don't know who to pay, but you guys nailed it.
**SPEAKER_2** (0:36)
Other radio hits. You're cheating on us. That's what you're telling us, Tony.
**Tony Kinnett** (0:39)
How dare you? Only with very, very attractive French maids. Nigel.
**SPEAKER_2** (0:50)
We got a lot going on with this little situation with Iran, Tony. Take me through your thoughts, your overall perspective on what you see happening with Iran right now.
**Tony Kinnett** (1:03)
So what I see happening with Iran right now is the kind of the last decision, whether to go and finish this thing and do it properly and then be done, or we kind of pussyfoot around forever and we tiptoe and we say, well, I don't know, I kind of just think we should. And realistically, what America does best is shock and awe. They go, they finish things. There's this idea that we can just kind of sit in a boat off the coast and like, do a little, you know, you do a little slap, I'll do a little slap and you know, that's kind of maybe what we're seeing now is an actual escalation of strikes that are reducing capability on a more permanent basis. Again, this is how you actually wage war. Forever wars are made whenever you do this. Well, proportionally, you take one rook and then I take your bishop and then that's ridiculous. And so when the president actually had fighter jets over Tehran last night while we were live because God loves making my radio show difficult, then we actually got to go through the different initial reactions of the IRGC.
And there were about three of them because they have lost contact with Tehran itself and that's creating some interesting effects.
**Nigel Jason Hammer** (2:08)
It's not going to be cut and run though, is it? I mean, that would just be a disservice to say the dignified transfer, the servicemen and women that were recently deceased in the base bombings.
It can't just be as easy as cut and run and then we're going to... But finishing the job doesn't look that easy either.
**Tony Kinnett** (2:30)
Well, this is the thing. You actually have to commit to one or the other. And this is why it was critical of my doppelganger who said that the MOU is going to be a new leaf in diplomacy. You can't just drop bombs. OK, that's enough from the George W. Bush wing of the party. I don't want to hear it. I don't want to hear the soft handed like, well, in every heart yearns for freedom. What if we try diplomacy? That doesn't work. That's not a thing. There are some people who just want to kill you, do the job and go through it all the way. Otherwise, don't get involved in the first place. Doing halfway stuff.
I agree, Nigel. That would be a disservice to not only those who have died in this conflict, but also those who have died throughout the 47, 48 years of Iran's regime reign.
**SPEAKER_2** (3:12)
Yeah. So Tony, let's say Pete Hegseth orders the hit and all of a sudden you see the bombers dropping bunker buster on top of bunker buster on top of other ones.
And they've said they've blown up everything that Iran needs to build a nuclear weapon. This was what our goal was from the very beginning. Let's say they do that tonight and they say we're done here. Does that work for you?
**Tony Kinnett** (3:38)
It depends on what gets the bunker busters. If it's just Pickaxe Mountain, no. If it's Tehran, yes.
I'm of the I'm sorry. I'm all of this like, oh, no, there was it was right next to this hospital. Again, they chose to build the hospital next to the active military base. If the military base is active and functional, that's their responsibility. Collateral damage is a part of war. This idea that someone can rob a bank, hold his family hostage, and that's a get out of jail free card for him, because he's then chose to hold his family hostage. You do what you can. You don't try for collateral damage. They just slaughtered 50,000 of their own people this year. Either we care about this or we don't. Don't tell me, well, this part of Tehran has a playground at two in the morning. What if there's children on the merry-go-round? Piss off.
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