Meet the 14yo entrepreneur who's already launched 2 businesses

**Sam Parr** (0:00)
All right, this episode is special because it's for the kids. You see, I have a friend named Val. Val's been on the podcast. Val has built a bunch of really big businesses. And because I'm close to Val, I became friends with his son. His son's name is Isaac. And he's one of the most impressive people I know, not just kids. So Isaac is 13 years old. And over the past couple years, he's built businesses and web apps and things like that, that have made one and $2,000 a day. And I thought that he was just amazing, even though he's a kid, his insights are pretty ridiculous and his maturity is ridiculous. And I felt inspired whenever I've been able to hang out with him. And so we thought we'd do kind of a fun episode where we had him on the podcast, Sean and I did, and we asked him all types of questions about his business, about how he thinks. And I think it'll be fun in like 10 years to look back on this and be like, what was Isaac like when he was younger compared to when he was older and probably a lot more successful. So give this episode a listen. I dig it, man. I like these. I like hearing from young guys like who are in the thick of it. And let me know. I'm on Twitter at TheSamParr if you like these kind of like children-esque episodes. Maybe we'll do more of them and we'll find some young guys doing some really interesting stuff. So give it a listen and let me know.
So, Isaac, I wanted to have you on because I'm friends with your father. And he's been telling me for about two or three years, some of the stuff that you're working on. And you started working on this, I think, when you were 12, a bunch of different apps. And I couldn't believe what you're doing. And I told Sean about it, but Sean doesn't entirely know. Wait, wait.

**Shaan Puri** (1:40)
Isaac, how old are you?

**Isaac Katayev** (1:41)
14 All right.

**Shaan Puri** (1:42)
I think you're the youngest guest ever to come on the podcast. So congratulations. You're 14 years old. And do you are you like, I'm 14 years old. I'm an entrepreneur. I'm a businessman. I'm a ninth grader. What do you call yourself?

**Isaac Katayev** (1:55)
I guess you could call me like an entrepreneur. But really, it's like a nice kid.

**Shaan Puri** (2:01)
Yeah, I like that. Entrepreneur and comma ninth grader.

**Isaac Katayev** (2:04)
Yeah, I know that.

**Sam Parr** (2:05)
OK, well, talk about first about Cookieduck. And then we got to talk about this new one. But you need to and I want you to brag. I know you're probably not comfortable with bragging, but it's OK to brag here. I want you to brag to Sean about Cookieduck.

**Isaac Katayev** (2:18)
OK, so Cookieduck, it started when I was around like 10, where we had computer time at like school. We had free time on the computers and the games were always all they were always blocked on the computers. Right. So what I wanted to do was I wanted to create like a website that allowed me to play games at school in our free time. So I would just start like building little parts of code, like putting little games on this website. And after a while, right, just like me and my friends are playing it. Then when COVID came around, what happened was everyone got their Chromebooks and then it just started spreading like wildfire. So by the seventh grade already, we had like over 4,000 people playing on it in like 30 minutes.

**Sam Parr** (3:01)
And your father told me that you just told a few friends and you could see would use or one of you guys would use Google Analytics or something. And you're like, all right, at this school in Long Island, like 90 percent of the thousand person school is using it. Oh, shoot, we just saw that another school just found out about it because now like 30 miles away, there's a whole another thousand. Is that right?

**Isaac Katayev** (3:21)
Yeah. So it started out like a couple of people at each school. I think before you knew it, like the whole school was already on it because it's like rare to find a website that's unblocked on the Chromebooks.

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