**SPEAKER_1** (0:01)
This is Hidden Killers Live with Tony Brueski and Robin Drake.
**Tony Brueski** (0:07)
Taylor Parker's OBGYN knew she couldn't be pregnant. Her mother knew, her father knew, went to the gender reveal anyway, her aunt knew, her ex-husband knew. Every one of them hit the same wall. Privacy laws, pandemic restrictions, a system that said the truth wasn't theirs to share. The scariest part of this case isn't Taylor Parker. It's that the people who could have stopped it were told they weren't allowed to.
Let's get into this. Shavaun Scott, psychotherapist and author with us. So is Robin Drake, retired FBI Special Agent, Chief of the Counterintelligence Behavioral Analysis Program. So Taylor arrives at the hospital covered in blood, clutching a dying baby, refuses the exam, blood work confirms she was never pregnant. Everyone assumes medical professionals snap into action, but that room just kind of became something nobody in that area was trained for. I mean, is there even a way for that hospital or these professionals to prepare for something like this, Shavaun?
**Shavaun Scott** (1:11)
This is so out of the norm. And yes, most hospitals are never going to see anything like this happen. And their training is to treat the medical emergency. You go into an emergency room, there's something going on.
And they're not immediately thinking, oh, this is a woman who stole a baby. Although it seemed like they did a cue in pretty quickly that something was off here. And it was a big something. And I think they probably did the best they could under the circumstances, but it was definitely probably very unsettling for them in knowing how do we handle this and what do we do. Law enforcement did come in quickly and it's one again that we can look back and say, how can they prepare better? Well, give everybody as they did, give her that task, do a pelvic exam, and get to it as soon as possible.
**Tony Brueski** (2:09)
And I mean, I want to get into what was she thinking that they weren't going to test her how she was going to get away with this. But I want to talk first about there's a lot of people screaming, there should be HIPAA laws change so the doctors could communicate with people more directly. And maybe so, maybe there needs to be something where it's like if you know someone is actively committing a fraud that's medically impossible and could be potentially dangerous, maybe there should be a lever that could be pulled there. I'm not saying that that's a bad thing, but there were plenty of people who knew damn well that she was not, could not be present, and they did speak and they did talk. It's not like there was a complete wall of silence here where information wasn't being disclosed to the parties that should know. They chose not to believe it.
So even if you did have the HIPAA law in place, even if you do have the doctors that would have added one more voice to like ten others who were screaming, this can't be possible, would that have even mattered or would the people who'd chosen not to believe still not believe?
**Shavaun Scott** (3:17)
Yeah, I think that people who had some kind of investment in not believing, I don't think it would have made any difference. Somebody confronted her about the how can you be pregnant. You had a hysterectomy and she just said, well, it grew back.
**Tony Brueski** (3:33)
There you go.
**Shavaun Scott** (3:34)
Okay. Okay.
Yeah. And as far as HIPAA, of course, looking back at this case in hindsight, it's a tragedy that somebody couldn't have done something more, but who would they have gone to? What would they have done? I mean, you can't really go to the police and say somebody's faking a pregnancy. I mean, that's not breaking a law. And nobody had any idea that she was going to do this horrendous thing that she ultimately did. And most of the time, HIPAA protects us. You know, you don't want somebody calling up and faking that they're your mother.
And I don't know, Tony, if your mother would do that. But somebody pretending that they're your mother, calling up your doctor and trying to tell them a bunch of stuff about you and try to get your personal information. I mean, HIPAA is a good thing. And certainly for medical professionals, they scare us to death with it. You will be prosecuted, lose your license, have massive fines if you ever violate HIPAA. And most of the time, I think HIPAA is a good thing. But you can look at a case like this and say, couldn't there have been something else done?
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