Jack Dorsey On Solitude, Self-Care & Shouldering The Health of Global Conversation

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I get my sense of spirituality through connection. And what Twitter represents is spiritual to me. Tapping into the consciousness, the larger organism, whether it be the planet, the universe, the social consciousness is what drives me.
There's a lot of power to seeing how people think in ways that make us feel great, and also things that are super uncomfortable, because we need to be able to acknowledge in person in order to have a conversation about it. And there's no other path towards evolution and making something better unless we can talk about it.

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That's Jack Dorsey, and this is The Rich Roll Podcast.
Hey, everybody, how you guys doing? What's happening? My name is Rich Roll. I am your host. This is my podcast. And today my guest is Jack Dorsey.
Jack is the co-founder and CEO of both Twitter and Square. And somebody who I think it's fair to say quite incontrovertibly has become one of the most influential figures of the modern age. Somebody who has made this crazy indelible impact on the cultural landscape by really helping shape the way that we communicate as a culture.
Jack has been doing the podcast rounds lately. He's had recent appearances on a wide variety of shows, including Sam Harris, two appearances on Joe Rogan, Ben Greenfield the other day, and several more.
And I listened to all of them. And I realized that Jack is a polarizing figure for many, but on a personal level, I have to say I found him to be quite transparent. Somebody who has been open about Twitter's failures, the challenges that he and his organization have faced, continue to face, as well as incredibly composed under the pressure of being held accountable for his platform's shortcomings.
And my sense is that his response to many of the hard questions that are being posed to him, that have been being posed to him on all of these podcasts and interviews have left a lot of critics feeling unsatisfied. And I guess what I wanna say is that if you are such a person, one of these people, then I'm not sure this podcast is gonna change that view because my interest was less on retreading the territory that was explored at length on Rogan, nor was it an attempt to hold him to account in the way that Tim Pool did on Joe's show. Instead, or rather my intention for this conversation was simply to better understand this human behind the curtain. In other words, what does it actually feel like to be at the helm of one of the largest and most powerful social media platforms on the planet? What does a day in the life of Jack Dorsey look like? And what daily self-care practices does he employ to mitigate the stress of his responsibilities? And just how did this young man blaze such an incredible, extraordinary entrepreneurial path? It's these kinds of questions that informed how I approached this conversation. And I got a lot more I wanna say about Jack and what's to come, but first.
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