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FEUD; Dana Bash vs RFK Jr

Hammer + Nigel Show Podcast

August 3, 2026

CNN’s DANA BASH VS HHS SECRETARY RFK, JR….Fighting about the COVID Vaccine.   See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
Speakers: Dana Bash, Robert F. Kennedy Jr.
**SPEAKER_1** (0:30)
The cry down in rage and agony, because they know that RFK Jr. is absolutely right about everything he says. And Dana Bash has nothing to back her argument up here. Now you can give some context, I'm sure, but this is delicious, man.

**SPEAKER_2** (0:49)
So for the better portion of two years in this country, the political left worshiped at the Church of Fauci.

**SPEAKER_1** (0:57)
Oh, sure.

**SPEAKER_2** (0:58)
Dr. Fauci could do no wrong. And if you had any sort of thoughts that would disagree with Dr. Fauci, you were a conspiracy theorist, you were a grandma killer, you were every name under the sun.
But then some more information came out that proved not only was Dr. Fauci full of crap, but the science, quote, was made up. It was arbitrary. That whole six feet apart thing, it was made up. Those cloth masks that kids wore that had cartoon characters on it that was made in China didn't do anything. Nothing. If anything, it kind of hurt the kids even more.
So Dana Bash had on RFK Jr. on her CNN program this weekend. And her takeaway was the vaccines worked like she is going down on the Titanic. She's one of those guys with the violin that's going down with the ship. She is not going to say a bad word about Dr. Fauci or the vaccines. And I think she was kind of hoping RFK would let it go, but he didn't.

**Dana Bash** (2:07)
It is also factually true that the COVID vaccine worked. The COVID vaccine prevented deaths. There is data upon data upon data. Let's talk about the measles, please, because this is something that is happening as we speak.

**Robert F. Kennedy Jr.** (2:22)
Do you think the COVID vaccine protected children?

**Dana Bash** (2:26)
I think that what I have talked to scientists and doctors about...

**Robert F. Kennedy Jr.** (2:30)
You've talked to scientists, can you look, can you show me one study?

**Dana Bash** (2:33)
Yes, I can.

**Robert F. Kennedy Jr.** (2:34)
That shows that...

**Dana Bash** (2:35)
I can.

**Robert F. Kennedy Jr.** (2:36)
children were protected by the COVID vaccine.

**Dana Bash** (2:38)
I can tell you that there are...

**Robert F. Kennedy Jr.** (2:40)
That vaccine did more good than harm to children. Can you show me one study that shows that?

**SPEAKER_2** (2:45)
And at this point, Dana Bash is fumbling through her papers and trying to find anything.

**SPEAKER_1** (2:53)
Oh, crap, I didn't know he's going to ask me about the kids.

**SPEAKER_2** (2:55)
He pushed back on the COVID vaccine. Now what do I do? Let's hear a little more, because this is good.

**Dana Bash** (3:02)
I can tell you that when it comes to the vaccine, there have been studies that show that because of vaccine disinformation, disinformation, there could have been 100,000 to 200,000 lives in the US saved. But because people didn't get the vaccine, that's why... I'm not saying that it entirely...

**Robert F. Kennedy Jr.** (3:20)
You are saying nonsense. You are saying something that you cannot show me.

**Dana Bash** (3:25)
Okay.

**Robert F. Kennedy Jr.** (3:25)
A single study makes sense.

**Dana Bash** (3:26)
I am not saying nonsense. You are talking what?

**Robert F. Kennedy Jr.** (3:29)
Somebody told you...

**Dana Bash** (3:31)
Excuse me.

**Robert F. Kennedy Jr.** (3:31)
And you said, cite me the study, what study?

**Dana Bash** (3:35)
No, what studies are you talking about? You're talking about studies that actually don't exist. I want to talk about...

**Robert F. Kennedy Jr.** (3:40)
Cite me the study that you're talking about.

**Dana Bash** (3:42)
I am not here to defend.

**Robert F. Kennedy Jr.** (3:44)
You said, cite me the study.

**Dana Bash** (3:46)
This is not productive. I am not here to defend all of the... You're talking nonsense.

**Robert F. Kennedy Jr.** (3:51)
You're making assertions you can't support it. And then when I call you on there, you're telling me I'm arguing.

**Dana Bash** (3:56)
OK, do you want to...

**SPEAKER_1** (4:00)
Oh, shut up and sit down, little girl. Oh, wow. I mean, honestly, you're being made a fool of.

**SPEAKER_2** (4:08)
I could move to another story, but I kind of want to hear more of this. Can we hear some more, please?

**Dana Bash** (4:15)
You are the HHS secretary and you are talking about things that lead to vaccine hesitancy in this country. And it is something that causes problems for people when there is not anything.

**Robert F. Kennedy Jr.** (4:32)
Let me ask you something. Do you see your job as ending vaccine hesitancy or do you see your job as telling the truth to the American people?

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