ELON MUSK: The Future of AI, Tesla’s Economy & Global Shift

**Joe Rogan** (0:03)
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Exactly. Just every morning. Whatever Jeff Bezos is doing. He's definitely doing some testosterone. He looks jacked. He looks jacked, right? Yeah, but he's like... Quick. Quick. Quick.
Yeah, he got jacked quick. At age 59 and less than a year, he went from pencil -necked geek to looking like the Rock. Yeah, like a little miniature alpha fella. Yeah, like his neck got bigger than his head. Yeah, he got big and quick. But then his earlier pictures, his neck's like a noodle. I support this activity. I would just see him going in this direction. Which is fine, and his voice dropped like two octaves. I want you to move in that direction as well. I think we can achieve this. I think we can achieve Giga Chad. That's what Beeple called it. Where is that guy? Beeple? I don't know where he is. That's like a real guy. The artist? Yeah. Oh, Giga Chad. Oh, Giga Chad. Yeah, I don't know if that's a real guy. It's hard to tell. No, no, it is a real guy. It is a real guy? Yeah. He's got the crazy jaw and perfect sculpted hair. Yeah. Well, I mean, they may have exaggerated a little bit. Probably. But, no, I think he actually just kind of looked like that in reality. Wow. So, like, he's a pretty unique -looking individual. I think we can achieve this. That guy right there, that's a real guy? That's a real dude? I always thought that was CGI. No, I think the upper right one is not him. That's not him. That one to the left of that, like, that's real? No, that's Art Fisher, bro. That's fake. That's got that Uncanny Valley feel to it, doesn't it? It's not impossible. No. No, it's not impossible to achieve. But it's not possible to maintain that kind of leanness. No, no. That's a crazy leanness. At that point, he's dehydrating and all sorts of things. Oh, it's based on a real person. Yeah, yeah. Right, but it's not a real person. What does he really look like? Those images, I think, are bullshit. Some of them are. Is that real? Okay, that looks real. That looks like a really jacked bodybuilder. Yeah. Yeah, that looks real. Like, that's achievable, but there's a few of those images where you're just like, what's going on here? Yeah, yeah, yeah, totally. Well, I mean, you see it? Is that the real dude? Well, there's that Icelandic dude who's Thor. Oh, yeah, the guy who jumps in the frozen lakes and shit? Well, the guy who played the mountain. Oh, that guy. That is like a mutant strong human. Yes. Yeah. Like, he would be in, like, the X -Men or something, you know? We were hanging out. I mean, he's just, like, not, like, and there's that, you know, I've seen that meme, tent and tent bag. No. You know how, like, it's, like, it's really hard to get the tent and tent and the tent? Oh, right, right.
That's true. And there's a picture of him and his girlfriend. Oh, right. That's hilarious. Yeah, that's his wife. I don't know how it gets in there. It seems too small. I met Brian Shaw. Brian Shaw is the world's most powerful man. And he's almost seven feet tall. He's 400 pounds. And his bone density is one in 500 million people. So there's maybe 16 people. He's an enormous human being. Like a legitimate giant. Just like that guy. But we met him. He was hanging out with us in the green room of the mothership. It's like, okay, if this is like David and Goliath days, this is an actual giant. Like the giants of the Bible. Once in a while they get a super giant person. This is a real one. Like, not a tall, skinny basketball player. Yeah, yeah. Like a 7 -foot, 400 -pound power lifter. Like, you don't want to... Look at him. That's the guy. See if there's a photo of him standing next to, like, a regular human. There it is. That's him right there. Like, there's, like, one of him next to standing next to Arnold and stuff. Yeah. And it's where... Everyone just looks tiny. I mean, I think he's a pretty cool dude, actually. Oh, Brian's very cool. Very smart, too. Unusually, you know, you expect anybody to be that big. It's got to be... A moron. Yeah. No. Yeah. There's Andre the Giant, who was awesome. Yeah. He was great in Princess Bride. No, he was just awesome, period. Yeah, yeah. So we were talking about this interview with Sam Altman and Tucker. And I was like, we should probably just talk about this on the air. Because it is one of the craziest interviews I think I've ever seen in my life. Yeah. Where Tucker starts bringing up this guy who was. Yeah. A whistleblower or whatever. A whistleblower. Yeah. Who, you know. committed suicide, but doesn't look like it and Yeah, and he's talking to Sam Altman about this and Sam Altman was like are you accusing me? He's like no no no I'm not I'm just saying I think someone killed him. Yeah, like and should be investigated. Yeah Not just drop the case It seems like that they just dropped the case. Yeah. Yeah, but it seems like he was murdered. Yeah The wires to a security camera were cut Blood in two rooms. Blood in two rooms. Someone else's wig was in the room. Someone else's wig. Wig. Wig. Yes. Not his wig. Not normal to have a wig laying around. Yes. And he ordered DoorDash right before allegedly committing suicide. Yeah. Which seems unusual. Yeah. It's like, I'm going to order pizza on second thoughts, I'll kill myself. It seems like that's a very rapid change in mindset. It's very weird, and especially the parents have, they don't believe he committed suicide at all. Has no note or anything. No. It seems pretty fucked up. And, you know, the idea that a whistleblower for an enormous AI company that's worth billions of dollars might get whacked, that's not outside the pale. I mean, it's straight out of a movie. Right out of a movie, but right out of a movie is real sometimes. Yeah, right. Exactly. Right? It's a little weird that I think they should do a proper investigation. Like, what's the downside on that proper investigation? Right. No. Yeah. For sure. Yeah, yeah. But the whole exchange is so bizarre. Yeah, yeah. It is. Sam Altman's reaction to being accused of murder is bizarre. Look, I don't know if he's guilty, but it's not possible to look more guilty. So I'm like. Or look more weird. Yeah. You know, maybe it's just his. social thing like maybe he's just odd with confrontation and it just goes blank you know but if somebody was accusing me of killing Jamie like if Jamie was a whistleblower and Jamie got whacked and then I'd be like wait what are you what are you are you accusing me of killing my friend like what the fuck are you talking about I would I would be a little bit more irate yeah yeah exactly you know I would be a little upset Yeah, it'd be like, well, you'd certainly insist on a thorough investigation. Yeah. As opposed to trying to sweep it under the rug. Yeah, I wouldn't assume that he committed suicide. I would be suspicious. If Tucker was telling me that aspect of the story, I'd be like, that does seem like a murder. Fuck, we should look into this. I mean, all signs point to it being a murder. Not saying, you know. Sam Altman had anything to do with the murder. Blood in two rooms. Blood in two rooms. Yeah. The wires to the security camera and the door dash being ordered right before suicide. No suicide note. His parents think he was murdered. And the people that I know who knew him said he was not suicidal. So I'm like this. Why would you jump to the conclusion? Parents have sued the landlord? They sued the son's landlord. Alleged the owners and the managers of their son's San Francisco apartment building were part of a widespread cover -up of his death. The landlord? Yeah, there's a bunch of weird... They said there was, like, packages missing from the building. Some people said they saw packages still being delivered, and then all of a sudden they all disappeared. Huh. But that could be... People steal people's packages all the time. The porch pirate situation. Yeah. It says they failed to safeguard. Also, I mean, the amount of trauma those poor parents have gone through with their son dying like that. I mean, it must—God bless them. And how could they stay sane after something like that? They're probably—they're so grief -stricken. Who knows what they believe at this point? Yeah. I should have asked if Epstein killed himself.