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**Ed Ludlow** (0:22)
This is Bloomberg Tech coming up. Tech stocks higher after positive results from CoreWeave and Supermicro, showing the booming AI market continues to bolster their sales. Plus, Silicon Data is out with new funding, putting it to work on building independent benchmarks for AI compute. The CEO joins us this hour. And investors are betting AI music start-up, Suno, can be the next Spotify. But it's also got concerns of theft and AI slop to contend with. We'll discuss. It is Neo Clouds and new AI infrastructure demand that's driving markets. Look at CoreWeave, right now up 17 percent. Actually, it's only biggest jump or on track for its biggest jump in about 10 days. One point in the session up for its on track for its best day since June of 2025
It's all in the outlook for the current period, which is the third quarter Bloomberg's Brody Ford is with us covering the print. Basically, they said, this is what sales are going to be.
And that was beyond street expectations. And CoreWeave seems to be executing, meeting the demand that's there with new Neo Cloud supply.
**Brody Ford** (1:24)
Right, CoreWeave is the poster child for the Neo Clouds, which is kind of the most controversial category, a company out there right now. A lot of haters on the internet will say that, you know, the margins will never inflect, it'll never really be a good return on investment. But an important piece last night was that margins are going up, operating income is going up. And part of that is that the chips are still so constrained. We heard on the call last night that they're able to really extract good pricing out of these chips. And even older chips, even NVIDIA chips from 2020, they're able to sell through, you know, 2029
And it's a really positive sign that what they have has sustained demand.
**Ed Ludlow** (2:06)
High utilization of older generation chips and pricing, we'll get to really deep later in the program with Silicon Data.
They're not the only NeoCloud to report. So over in Europe, Nebius is another. NeoCloud just simply data center for AI workloads, right? Or cloud capacity for AI workloads. What's the Nebius story? How is it different the same to CoreWeave?
**Brody Ford** (2:26)
Yeah, the macro story of higher AI demand is across the board. What's interesting with Nebius is a very important part of their story is a big contract with Microsoft in New Jersey that had been seeing some of the NIMBYism, some of the anti data center sentiment we've all been hearing so much about. And Nebius effectively said that we're going to be able to deliver on schedule and don't worry about that. And so investors are pretty happy.
**Ed Ludlow** (2:51)
Bloomberg's Brodie Ford on all things Neocloud, thank you very much. The other big AI earning story is Supermicro, and in that case, shares are surging as well. The AI server maker forecasts as much as $15.5 billion in revenue for the current quarter. That was above even the most bullish estimates, demand for AI infrastructure through the lens of Supermicro continues to surge. Joining us now is Sajjal Dogra, Rosa Blatt Securities Managing Director, a buy rating on the stock, but a new price target of $51 up from $45.
**Ryan Blastelica** (3:23)
Sajjal, great to have you on the show.
**Ed Ludlow** (3:24)
How much is this just Supermicro executing? We know about the backlog for AI servers. They seem to be able to move more smoothly now.
**Sajjal Dogra** (3:34)
You know, so they've, I mean, if you take a step back, Supermicro is a name that's actually grown revenue at a 60% CAGR over the past five years, and over 75% in the, you know, in over the past couple of years. So they've underperformed, if you look at it, from a stock performance, because they've underperformed on gross margins, essentially. And now the thing is, before, so we're going through a very weird period. We've had TATIF cost, we've had expedite fees, we've had supply constraints. And so the net result of all of that is gross margins, which were averaging 15% before, are now below 10%.
And so, I think over the past six months, the margins have actually been over 10%. And I expect, we're kind of going through this period where I think margins go higher from here. And that's the key debate on Supermicro. The debate's never been on the revenue growth. We've always had a 60, 70% CAGR revenue.
And so, I think, and the stock is in the perform, given everything else that's been happening with the name. But that's the reason it's, but finally, this is a breakout quarter for them. They've missed the last six, seven quarters. But I think finally, they've raised the guide well above street. They blew past consensus by over 25%. We were actually the high on the street. So, for example, consensus for next year was $3.20. We were at like $4.30, and now we're modeling over $5 in next year's earnings. So, I think everyone else on the street will also reset numbers higher after this strong results from them.
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