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Hammer + Nigel Show Podcast

July 21, 2026

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Speakers: Hammer, Nigel
**Hammer** (0:01)
Hammer and Nigel.

**SPEAKER_2** (0:02)
You believe these characters are weirdos?

**Hammer** (0:04)
So let's rock it!

**SPEAKER_2** (0:06)
If we left right now, it would take around 20, 25 years to rebuild. And we're not finished at all. But if we left right now, it would take them a long time, years, years to rebuild.
But we're not leaving right now.

**Hammer** (0:21)
I don't know if I'd mind if they'd left right now, Hammer, would you? If the United States left right now and it would take 25 years for Iran to rebuild, I wouldn't mind it if they left right now. But Donald Trump says no, but that's just saying if we did it, we're not going anywhere. But if we did it, 25 years for Iran to rebuild.

**Nigel** (0:41)
So now we're speaking like, OJ, if we did it, it'd take 25 years.
Okay, is that good enough for everybody that says we can't have a nuclear Iran? It's 25 years. If you're guaranteed 25 years of Iran not having a nuke, would that work for you? But keep in mind, we've lost servicemen and women now. People have lost their lives for this cause.

**Hammer** (1:08)
Yeah, I mean, I say I'd be okay leaving. There's got to be some plan to leave eventually, but that's when they absolutely cannot make any more nukes with the centrifuges and everything like that. They've got to have a plan to where, yeah, they're going to be able to leave and they're not going to have to babysit anymore.

**Nigel** (1:29)
Right. Now, I'm glad you bring up the centrifuges because President Trump, speaking earlier today, announced that the US military will be bombing Iran's Pickaxe Mountain.
Now, that's the area where they believe the nuclear dust and all that kind of stuff may have been moved. Take a listen.

**SPEAKER_2** (1:49)
You're talking about the centrifuges. It doesn't mean anything unless they have the material. They don't have. We follow the material. That's where the action is. And we'll be hitting that area very probably pretty soon. And there's not not a thing they can do about it. Normally, I wouldn't say that if I thought they could do something about it, I would never say that. But we'll be hitting that area pretty soon.
And and very heavily.

**Hammer** (2:14)
I do think it's kind of strange when the president raises his hand and says, yes, we're going to be doing this and this and that and that. And these are moves here. And this is where we're going to be bombing specifically. It's like, well, there's nothing they could do about it anyway, or else I wouldn't have said it.

**Nigel** (2:31)
It's not a surprise. It's not a sneak attack.

**Hammer** (2:34)
Right.

**Nigel** (2:35)
It's almost like when Larry Bird would talk, talk trash in a basketball game. He would tell somebody, I'm going to go right in that corner and shoot a three on your head and there's nothing you can do about it. And then he would go in the corner, shoot a three on that guy's head and hit it.

**Hammer** (2:50)
You're saying Donald Trump is the Larry Bird of bombing Iran?

**SPEAKER_2** (2:54)
Absolutely.

**Nigel** (2:55)
Damn right. Print the T-shirts right now. Put them on the Hammer and Nigel merchandise store, store.hammerandnigel.com.
President Trump downplaying concerns with the Houthis. Now, there's a little give and take going on with the Houthis here.
So on one hand, President Trump's like, yeah, I'm not above meeting with them. I'll meet with anybody. We can, you know, have some sort of common interest. But on the other hand, they're kind of getting squirrely saying, well, if you guys want to do this with the Strait of Hormuz, what if we tried to block the Red Sea? What if we do that? Here's President Trump's response.

**SPEAKER_2** (3:40)
But we take care of things. If something like that happens, we take care of it. You know, we've done that with the Houthis before, and we haven't heard from them in a while since we did what we did originally. That was about 45 days of very powerful action we took against the Houthis. And we've had no problem with the Houthis. They've had no problem with us for a long period of time, including during this conflict.
I think that if there is something like that, we'll just have to take care of business.

**Hammer** (4:12)
Yeah, don't they understand? Like, all right, Iran's having a lot of trouble with the strait, and if the Houthis started blocking the Red Sea, I'd imagine the same outcome eventually would happen.

**Nigel** (4:26)
Right. Do you really see Hegseth and Trump going, Oh, what do we do now? The Houthis are mad. Like, I don't see that being the case. Now, it's not ideal. Like, I'm not trying to be a cocky, egotistical, you know what, but like, easy on the threats, right? You're the Cleveland Browns. You're the New York Jets. You don't get to threaten the Seattle Seahawks here. That's not how this works. Not saying that you can't find lightning in a bottle once in a while, but the odds are not in your favor.

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