Brendan Allen #2431: MMA Show, UFC Middleweight Division & Fight Strategy 2026 artwork

Brendan Allen #2431: MMA Show, UFC Middleweight Division & Fight Strategy 2026

JRE Archived Research Series

February 16, 2026

Joe sits down with Brendan Allen, a professional mixed martial artist currently competing in the Middleweight division of the Ultimate Fighting Championship. www.ufc.
Speakers: Joe Rogan
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All right. What's happening, brother? Thanks for having us. My pleasure. So, Jamie, what were you just saying? I stopped you because it sounds so crazy. Trump said there's going to be eight to nine title fights at the White House UFC event and that they're, I guess, in quotes, withholding. Okay, first of all, there's only eight weight classes. So how's there going to be nine title fights? Maybe a BMF fight. Maybe you add a BMF. Maybe you have all of them in the BMF. I guess, but that's kind of a crazy thing. We're going to have 20 title fights. All the title fights it's ever been. Did he say any matchups? No, he didn't say who. He just said they're going to – I'll see if there's even a tweet about it. I just saw him talking about it. It was like a, I don't know, press conference or something. Well, if they don't do Jon Jones at the White House, I think it would be a travesty. For sure. They have to. They need to do that. They have to. Come on. Dana's like, you can't count on him. You can't fucking count on him. Come on. Stop. When he wants to, he's going to make it happen. At the White House? Come on. Jon Jones versus, let's see, what does it say here? Donald Trump predicts eight or nine championship fights. Okay. It would literally have to be every weight class fighting for the title, which would be nuts. Everyone's a championship fight. Everyone's a legendary type of fighter. He's actually holding back fights right now for six months so he can do it in the 15th of June. Trump seemingly meaning 14th of June. Yeah.
Arena's going to be 5 ,000 or 6 ,000 seats right in the front door of the White House. 100 ,000 people in the back where they're putting up eight or ten very big screens. What kind of fucking security are they going to have for this? It's got to be insane. Yeah. Are you trying to get on this? I mean, not really. Not really?
I can't imagine, like you said, the security, the behind the scenes, how much stuff's really going to happen. I'm just like... A lot of weird pressure, too. Probably. Because it's like all the security and the protocols, all that extra shit in your mind before you have to go out there and fight. Yeah, it just seems like a lot, like a lot more than what it needs to be. I'm sure it's going to be cool to watch, you know, kind of like what was the... The Sphere? Yeah, kind of cool to watch like that, but... Also, you're fighting outside. Yes. What are they going to do, put a roof over it? What happens if it burns? What if it's hot and muggy? That's going to affect people. I've watched them do outside fights in Louisiana. Oh, man. Oh, God. Louisiana, you can cut that air. You've got to see everyone slipping and sliding. It's so humid. Oh, that's terrible. Did you ever see that King of the Cage fight that they did where it was raining? I've seen the highlight of it, but I never watched the whole thing. Yeah, it was called King of the Cage Wet and Wild, and it rained out. This was in the day when we used to have to put on fights at Indian casinos. I'm pretty sure Eddie Bravo was doing the commentary back then. And it rained out. And so they were like, what do you guys want to do? And everybody was like, well, we want to get paid, so I guess we have to fight. So they fought in the fucking rain. I mean, it was crazy. How do you do that? I don't remember what the canvas was made out of. It might have been slick. It might have been like a vinyl canvas. It might not have been like a canvas like the UFC's canvas, which is actual canvas. It might have been like a jujitsu mat type situation. That's what it was in Louisiana with the humidity. I can't imagine the rain. The rain's got to be crazy. It was pouring. It was pouring down on people. See if you can find some highlights of King of the Cage wet and wild. It's got to be worse than blood on the canvas. Or blood on the vinyl. Right. It has to be. It has to be the worst. It just doesn't stop. How bad are those fucking logos? Do the logos get problematic when they get wet? On the canvas? Yeah, in the middle of the octagon. Here it is. Yeah, look at that. Look at that. That is like, that looks, it's hard to tell what it actually is, but it looks like vinyl. Got rubber shoes on, maybe. Yeah, these guys are fighting with shoes on, which helps a little. You see, this was back when there was like zero rules. Your man's in a poncho. Little poncho. That's hilarious. Look at these. Oh, these guys are barefoot. Look at these guys sliding around. This is so crazy. They throw punches and slip it. This is like a total like. like, winos in a parking lot of a liquor store. Imagine everyone didn't know it was raining. Like, man, you got rocked like 30 times. No, bro, I didn't get rocked. It was wet. Right. How do you judge? Like, what shots do damage? This is, like, so silly. Oh, look, they got a guy come out here with a thing to slide the water off the side. Yeah, that's not helping. This is so crazy. They're doing this. Look at the fighters are helping. The fighters are moving towels around. That is so ridiculous. You get an extra 30 seconds break if you wipe off the canvas. Yeah, right? That's funny. That's funny. Yeah. So who knows what's going to happen? I guess they'll probably have to have some sort of a roof over it. But what if it's like 98 degrees outside? It's going to be crazy. It's June in Baltimore or in Maryland, rather, and, you know, D .C. Yeah. Whatever that is. It's like D .C. It's not even a state. D .C. gets hot. It gets hot in the summer. It's going to be crazy. I always wonder like how much behind the scenes work goes into like for the sphere, for example, because obviously they have everything else down to a science. Maybe redo that. That's going to be crazy. Abu Dhabi. That's right. We did a live one outdoor in Abu Dhabi. I remember that. That was when BJ fought Frankie Edgar. Wow. Yeah. And Anderson.

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