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Adam Carolla Show

June 13, 2026

Introducing The Truth About Muscle, Protein, and Living Longer | Dr. Gabrielle Lyon from The School of Greatness. Follow the show: The School of Greatness You're not over-fat. You're under-muscled. That single reframe changes how you think about your weight, your energy, and how well you'll age.
Speakers: Lewis Howes, Dr. Gabrielle Lyon
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**Dr. Gabrielle Lyon** (2:06)
Yeah. Well, what if I told you, I don't think we're over fat.
In fact, we are under muscled. The reality is, as you pointed out, there's been this fixation on fat, adiposity, the diseases related to obesity, cardiovascular disease, hypertension, insulin resistance, all of these that go along with-

**Lewis Howes** (2:27)
With obesity, right?

**Dr. Gabrielle Lyon** (2:28)
Exactly. Well, what if obesity is actually just a symptom, which in fact it is, and what if I told you that these diseases are actually diseases of skeletal muscle first, and that obesity begins in skeletal muscle. Insulin resistance begins in skeletal muscle first.

**Lewis Howes** (2:51)
What is skeletal muscle?

**Dr. Gabrielle Lyon** (2:52)
Well, I mean, just even from a general perspective, it's the things that you, it's the muscles you have voluntary control over, right? So it's your biceps or your triceps or your quads.

**Lewis Howes** (3:03)
Anything you can flex is that. Okay. So the disease starts there, or there's a weakness first there?

**Dr. Gabrielle Lyon** (3:10)
Well, if you think about what skeletal muscle is, skeletal muscle is your metabolic currency. It's number one, for most people, makes up 40% of their body weight.
For you, maybe 45, for me, maybe 35, you're about a foot taller than me. Exactly. And when we think about skeletal muscle, we must understand that really, again, as your metabolic sink, what does it do? It is the site for glucose disposal. 80% or more, it is the site of glucose disposal.

**Lewis Howes** (3:39)
Your muscle is the site where glucose can be run through.

**Dr. Gabrielle Lyon** (3:43)
Yes. So glucose is a really interesting molecule in the fact that it is toxic, but we need it, and we have to get rid of it. It can't just hang around.

**Lewis Howes** (3:53)
And if we don't get rid of it, it's stored in the fat.

**Dr. Gabrielle Lyon** (3:56)
Well, if we don't get rid of it, the definition is diabetes. But we have to move glucose out of the bloodstream and into tissue. The main site of that is skeletal muscle.
One, if you think about skeletal muscle as a suitcase, if it is over packed with glucose and fatty acids, everything spills back out into the bloodstream, right? And what we must understand is that healthy muscle will act as the body's sink. You flush it out. Well, yeah. I mean, you got to put something.
So if we are overeating and under-exercising, we are having a negative impact on skeletal muscle, which is really the focal point of metabolism. From my perspective, from a muscle-centric perspective.
Well, what does that mean practically? Well, that means practically that the healthier your skeletal muscle is, the better your glucose regulation. Everybody cares about blood sugar regulation, right? Sure. Care about insulin resistance, and insulin resistance is requiring and being able to, you actually need more insulin to be able to put that glucose, which is toxic, back into the cell. Insulin resistance is just needing more. Well, when we think about skeletal muscle, it's the site for glucose disposal. It's also the site where fatty acids are metabolized, which people don't often think about that. Skeletal muscle is your body armor. Should you get injured? Should you have or need or be in a compromised state? Skeletal muscle is what's going to allow for your survivability.

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