We Tested Our Grit (And Were Humbled Immediately) artwork

We Tested Our Grit (And Were Humbled Immediately)

My First Million

March 15, 2024

Episode 562: Shaan Puri (https://twitter.com/ShaanVP) and Sam Parr (https://twitter.com/theSamParr) get into the economics of personality tests–including the most famous one which is used by 89% of Fortune 100 companies. Want to talk to Shaan?
Speakers: Shaan Puri, Sam Parr
**Shaan Puri** (0:00)
Now, the grit score goes, I think it's zero to 10 I want you to guess my grit score.

**Sam Parr** (0:05)
10 is super gritty.

**Shaan Puri** (0:07)
Gritty as it gets.

**Sam Parr** (0:09)
I would say, I would put you six, six, seven. You're pretty gritty.

**Shaan Puri** (0:14)
I appreciate your faith in me. I scored a 2.5 on this grit test, bro.

**Sam Parr** (0:20)
Dude, you should have took it again.
All right, Sean, you're back. How was the trip?

**Shaan Puri** (0:35)
My trip was great. Me and Ben went to Phoenix and I'm not going to share all the details, but it was a dope experience. Dope life experience. I think one great thing to share, by the way, when's like Sam, what's the last dope life experience you had?
Something you didn't have to do, but you did anyways.

**Sam Parr** (0:51)
Probably Camp MFM two years ago.

**Shaan Puri** (0:56)
Don't let that happen. Don't let too much time go by.
I think like every three months or so, you should try to do something that's a little extracurricular, if you know what I mean. Just something that's outside of the routine, outside of what you have to do. So I did that anyway. So we went to Phoenix because Matt Ishbia, who is the owner of the Sons, the Phoenix Sons, the basketball team there, we had gotten in touch with them and he was like, hey, if you guys ever want to come check out a game, come hang out. So we go down to Phoenix and we meet Matt, we meet the team.
We get to go courtside, live life as an NBA owner, which is awesome because I always dreamed of doing that. Now, what I want to tell you, though, is not about Matt.
What I want to tell you about is actually much more in the weeds. So here's a little in the weeds story. So I think Ben emailed him when he bought the team and was just like, hey, congrats, buddy. And then I was like, thank you, thank you, Ben Levy.
And that was the first touch point, second touch point was we invited him to Camp MFM. We're like, hey, he used to be a college basketball player. So he was a college basketball player. Now he's a multi billionaire who owns an NBA team. Well, that's a mix of basketball and entrepreneurship. That's who we try to invite to the camp. And so we invited him. He was like, oh, I'd love to come. Couldn't end up making the dates. But his kind of make good was, listen, sorry, I couldn't make it. But if you guys are ever in town, let me know. We'll hang out. We'll check out a game.
Hey, what do you know, Matt? We're in town. What are you in town? Because that's when we're in town. So we worked with his assistant to be like, when do you think we should be in town? And we did that.

**Sam Parr** (2:30)
So this is the rule of reciprocity, by the way. You offered someone something. And regardless if they take you up or not, they now owe you. We should just host events that aren't ever going to happen.
And we make sure we file the person online like, oh, they're out of town that day. They're already busy. Let's ask them.

**Shaan Puri** (2:45)
Ah, we're hosting a charity event honoring you. So so yes, we did that. Now, the funny thing is, well, the background here is that what what's the randomness here? Ben used to Ben is a diehard Phoenix Suns fan. He loves the Phoenix Suns more than you love your child. He loves the Phoenix Suns with a deeper passion than Romeo loved Juliet. And he was a ball boy for four or five years. So like literally was was with the team every day, volunteer ball boy, basically.
Just to give you a sense of this guy. So when every year when there's an All-Star Games, the way it works in the NBA is the fans vote on who gets to be named an All-Star.
So Ben supporting his guys, being the loyal supportive guy that he is, takes literally 100,000 ballots home, forces his family every night to sit there and punch the ballots to vote the Phoenix Suns guys in and himself over the course of a couple months, they churned through 100,000 ballots to try to support the team. The players didn't care. They didn't know about this. He just did it because he's that that big of a diehard fan. So that's ridiculous.
Ben obviously does a lot for me. I was like, can I what's a what's a how can I make a Ben appreciation weekend? And that's what this was. This was go and kind of let him live a live a childhood dream out. So he goes down there. We watch the game. It's all good.

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