Wake Up Live W/ Christopher DeSimone Ep. 354 - Dr. Rainer Zitelmann, Matt Beienburg, Dennis Kneale

**SPEAKER_1** (0:00)
You're listening to Wake Up with Christopher DeSimone on the Live The Dream Media Network, Southern Arizona's premier live talk and online radio.

**Christopher DeSimone** (0:21)
Good morning, my friends, you're on the Live The Dream Media Network. Christopher DeSimone, wake up, it's a Titanic Tuesday. Hopefully, you don't hit an iceberg. One o'clock today at Just Kebabs. It's Kebabs and Chris, or Skewer the Candidate, as they say in the kebab world. Please stop by, Lambert and La Cañada. It's our meet and greet for our wonderful campaign for Oral Valley Council. After me is Southwest Flavor, with the wonderful Ron Arenas. Ron, just hold on.
Oh, Ron from Arcadia and Him are going to have Corey Williams, former U of A basketball player. Nice. So did you connect in Rainer or is he?
All right. So between now and 6.30, Dr. Rainer Zitelmann will be on talking about, who knew I was going to talk about this day, what capitalism looks like in space, the entrepreneurial path to the stars. So, and of course, in the old days, everything was, of course, usually the Russian or American government doing space exploration. But now we know with Musk and other folks out there, it's becoming a private man's game. And we sent Shatner to on a shuttle for a while there with Bezos. So, looking forward to talking to Rainer, beautiful. And then we have, we have Matt Beienburg on from Goldwater at top of the hour. And then Jeff Dornick from Pickaxe will be on in the third hour. So let's, let me get my headphones on, we'll get right to it.
Hold on, hold on. There we go. I got a giant pumpkin of a head here. Let's get in.

**Rainer Zitelmann** (2:14)
Can you hear me? Can you see me?

**Christopher DeSimone** (2:16)
Can you hear me?

**Rainer Zitelmann** (2:18)
Yes, I can hear you and I can see you. And can you hear me and see me?

**Christopher DeSimone** (2:22)
Wonderful.

**Rainer Zitelmann** (2:24)
Okay. When will we start?

**Christopher DeSimone** (2:27)
Right now. You're on the air, baby. This is it. We're alive and going.

**Rainer Zitelmann** (2:32)
Okay. Great. Okay. Great.

**Christopher DeSimone** (2:34)
Good morning, doctor.

**Rainer Zitelmann** (2:37)
Yes, good morning.

**Christopher DeSimone** (2:38)
Tell me a little bit about Dr. Rainer Zitelmann. What are you a doctor of?
Give me a little biography for the audience, please.

**Rainer Zitelmann** (2:47)
Yes. I have not one doctor, but even two, two PhDs, one in history, and the other one is sociology. And yes, I published 32 books so far, published in 35 languages. And the latest book is New Space Capitalism, that was published now 10 days ago.
And yes, the topics I'm writing about is capitalism. I wrote books like The Power of Capitalism, Indie Fans of Capitalism, and now the latest one, New Space Capitalism. And I'm based here in Berlin, so here it's now three. And you know, we had yesterday a very bad soccer game from Germany.
I don't know whether you've seen it in the United States against Tarek Rai. So bad. But this is typical for what happens in Germany now. Everything is just going down, and so the same with soccer.

**Christopher DeSimone** (3:44)
I am so glad we're talking German soccer for a second. I'm not here to dance on their graves or anything like that. But so I listened to Talksport out of London in the morning. I'm a huge European soccer guy, okay? And so nothing the English like better than they do two things well. They love whining and crying about their own national team not playing well.
And then they love dancing on the... They love hitting on the Germans when you guys lose. So all they're doing is dancing on the German graves in London today. But what I was going to say is, again, what really amazed... We're going to talk about soccer talk. Sorry, guys. That's life. It's World Cup time. What was the last time me and a guy from... A doctor, two doctor, double doctor, we're going to talk about soccer here. You know, again, you have a very solid team, but once you get into the 18 box, nothing happens.
Right? There's just nothing happened.

**Rainer Zitelmann** (4:39)
It was bad. And the funniest thing was our chancellor, and I don't have the best opinion about him, also not about the other politicians in Germany, he posted on X, oh, what a great game. It was so great. Congratulations. What have you seen there?
But he thinks himself that he's a great chancellor, and so maybe he lives in the parallel universe. So we are right on our topic.

**Christopher DeSimone** (5:04)