The Menopause Doctor: This Diet Delays Menopause! They're Lying To You About Menopause! Menopause Is Shrinking Your Brain! - Dr Lisa Mosconi

**Lisa Mosconi** (0:00)
This is evidence of what women have been saying all along. Menopause changes the functionality of your brain.

**Steven Bartlett** (0:06)
It looked there like the brain was basically shrinking.

**Lisa Mosconi** (0:08)
Yes, and there are two reasons why this is very important. Number one, and this is something that impacts not all women, but also all men.

**SPEAKER_3** (0:17)
Dr. Lisa Mosconi is a neuroscientist whose groundbreaking research has discovered and revolutionized our understanding of the menopause. And the adaptions that can be made in order to thrive during this time of life.

**Lisa Mosconi** (0:28)
This is new research looking at brain changes during the different phases of menopause, a process that can take years. So this is before menopause, this is after.
And this shows a 30% drop in brain energy levels. So when women say that they're having hot flashes, insomnia, depression, two thirds of all women experience brain fog. Those are brain symptoms not recognized in medicine. In fact, we know that black and Hispanic women may experience more severe symptoms. And women have been portrayed as mentally unstable in medicine for a really long time. We need to change that. But on top of doing the research, I am actively doing a number of lifestyle adjustments that are known to have a positive effect on menopause.

**Steven Bartlett** (1:14)
So let's have a look at these things then.

**Lisa Mosconi** (1:16)
The first thing I do is...

**Steven Bartlett** (1:17)
Dr. Lisa, one of the things I found fascinating is I read that there was a miracle food for delaying menopause.

**Lisa Mosconi** (1:23)
A diet rich in has been linked with a later onset of menopause.

**Steven Bartlett** (1:28)
Well, how much?

**Lisa Mosconi** (1:29)
Three years.

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Thank you and enjoy this episode. Dr. Lisa, there's a high chance many millions of people have clicked on this conversation for whatever reason, men, women of all ages. What is the reason that all of those individuals need to listen to this conversation about the menopause brain?

**Lisa Mosconi** (2:22)
I think the main reason is that women are important and women's health matters.
And women's health has not been taken seriously in society and in medicine for hundreds of years. And this is time to really change the conversation and help and support women throughout an interesting and complicated transition that all women go through because this will make us all better. This is important for society as a whole.

**Steven Bartlett** (2:49)
Why should men listen?

**Lisa Mosconi** (2:51)
Men should listen because number one, it's really important to understand what happens to your spouse, to your friend, to your mother, to your aunt and all women go through menopause. So this is something that impacts not all women, but also all men really. And I find this so interesting and so really so heartwarming when I receive emails from men and they do a lot like daily and they're saying to me like, you know, thank you. You really helped me understand my wife better, or you really helped me understand my mother or my sister, my daughter. And now as a family, we're making different decisions or we're having different conversations and everything's just better. It's also really important to understand how humans actually work, you know, physiologically, medically, and there's so much in society that has been done against women or to help women, but that didn't quite work out.
And we're now understanding what's really important to do or not to do to support women's health.

**Steven Bartlett** (3:55)
I've had conversations about menopause before. I've had a few conversations on this podcast with friends, with one of my friends, Davina McCall, about menopause and it's really opened my eyes. Oh, you know her?

**Lisa Mosconi** (4:04)
Yes, yes, yes, she's wonderful.

**Steven Bartlett** (4:05)
Fantastic. Absolutely shining light in my life. And she's talked to me about the menopause, but very few people, if I would say, and nobody's talked to me about this extra word that appears on the front of your book, which is the word brain. I didn't realize that there was any impacts on a woman's brain when she goes through menopause, but that seems to be what you focused much of your work, especially in this book, to identify and to illuminate.