The Dark Story Behind Ozempic’s $500B Business Empire

**Sam Parr** (0:00)
Calley, what's the problem with Ozempic?

**Calley Means** (0:02)
Drugs like Ozempic and Ozempic.

**Shaan Puri** (0:04)
Drug Ozempic.

**Calley Means** (0:05)
The topic Ozempic.

**Shaan Puri** (0:07)
What exactly is Ozempic?

**Calley Means** (0:09)
Ozempic actually represents, to me, the biggest issue in the country, which is that we're basically being poisoned and then drugged for profit.

**Sam Parr** (0:17)
Can you explain how Ozempic actually works?

**Calley Means** (0:20)
Essentially, it is liquefied anorexia. And the problem with recommending it for a long term is that...

**Shaan Puri** (0:27)
Do doctors even have to go to a nutrition class?

**Calley Means** (0:30)
First day of Stanford Med School, my sister brought up that somebody with migraines might need to have a dietary intervention. Her attending surgeon said, stop being a pussy. We didn't go to nutrition school.

**Sam Parr** (0:40)
Is this gonna be the most lucrative drug ever made?

**Calley Means** (0:43)
It's the 12th most valuable company in the world. This Danish company, they are the largest funder of politicians, five times more than the oil industry. They're 50% of TV news spending. So they're not only able to influence us, they're actually able to buy the news itself.

**Sam Parr** (0:57)
When I hear Stanford Med School Professor or the Dean of Harvard Med School, are those people that you trust?

**Calley Means** (1:06)
Absolutely not. The problem is that we're listening to experts.

**Sam Parr** (1:09)
Remember the food pyramid? Let's eat our cereals. It's the base, it's the foundation of your food.

**Shaan Puri** (1:15)
At my house, I think go-gurt was like the biggest part of like the pyramid.

**Sam Parr** (1:19)
If you don't eat your go-gurt, you're not gonna get to go play.

**Calley Means** (1:21)
The food pyramid was propped by the Sugar Research Council, still owned by a cigarette company. We don't even realize this. Kraft is still owned by Philip Morris. We are poisoning our population.

**Shaan Puri** (1:29)
I just want to do like the 80-20, so I feel good and my family is safe and feels good. It's like, what can I do?

**Calley Means** (1:35)
The biggest lie in healthcare is that the reasons we're getting sick are complicated. And the second biggest lie is that these things can't be changed quickly, they can.

**Shaan Puri** (1:51)
On the road, let's travel ever looking back.

**Sam Parr** (1:54)
Calley, what's the problem with Ozempic?

**Calley Means** (1:57)
Starting out firing, I like it.
I came on to talk to Sam about this. I've got some bows to pick with some of his takes here.

**Shaan Puri** (2:04)
There's really, I think there's a huge problem with Ozempic, which is that there's a shortage and they're not making enough of it.

**Calley Means** (2:11)
All right, well, I'm glad we're getting right out of the gates here, guys. So here's the fundamental point.
I'm not concerned with the 350 pound obese diabetic person. That's between them and their doctor.
Ozempic actually represents, to me, the biggest issue in the country, which is that we're basically being poisoned and then drugged for profit. The largest and fastest growing industry in the country. And again, largest and fastest growing is the healthcare industry. And 95% of those dollars are around drugging and managing disease of people that are already sick.
So we've had this explosion of chronic disease kind of siloed treatments. And every single one of them relates to more of the disease. So Stan's more heart disease. Metformin, which 30% of people over 40 are on. I mean, it's one of the most widely prescribed drugs, right?
Diabetes goes up. SSRIs, now 25% of women are in SSRIs. Depression and suicide is skyrocketing as more SSRIs are prescribed. Literally every single drug, you go on the list of every chronic condition, the more it's prescribed, the more it goes up. So the biggest of them all, obesity. And you can't even wrap your head around this. It's a unique problem in America, but 50% of teens overweight or obese. I mean, that's a moral stain on our country. The childhood obesity rate in Japan is 3%. So we have something unique going on where 50% of teens are overweight or obese and then 80% of American adults are overweight or obese.

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