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The Anti-Ageing Expert: "I Have The Erection Of An 18 Year Old!", "This Food Reverses Your Age!", "This Oil Reduces Inflammation by 85%!"

The Diary Of A CEO with Steven Bartlett

November 9, 2023

Can we slow down ageing? Could we even reverse it? And, is death potentially optional? In this new episode Steven sits down again with entrepreneur, anti-aging and longevity pioneer Bryan Johnson. In 2007, Bryan founded the payment processing company ‘Braintree’, and was soon 47th on Inc.
Speakers: Steven Bartlett, Bryan Johnson, Kate Tolough
**Steven Bartlett** (0:00)
What on earth have you given me?

**Bryan Johnson** (0:02)
That is how you can measure your nighttime erections. It's unbelievable. In ways, it improves health and wellness.

**SPEAKER_3** (0:09)
Bryan Johnson is back. The billionaire who's spending $2 million a year to stay young forever. Through algorithmic precision.

**Bryan Johnson** (0:18)
This is the most impactful humanitarian project ever. Trying to find the very best science in the world for how you can extend your life.

**Steven Bartlett** (0:24)
How's it been going?

**Bryan Johnson** (0:25)
Honestly, I've been at the absolute peak performance of my entire life. I've extended my lifespan over 30 percent, reduced my age by 12 years, increased muscle and strength, and now six months of perfect sleep. I've accomplished the best sleep score in history. A demonstration of human ability, because if I can do it, everyone else can do it too. Every second of every day, we're all trying not to die. That's what we're doing as a society right now. It's not working very well. But if an algorithm could manage your health and wellness for you, and achieve near perfect health, would you opt in to that? Because we found it.

**Steven Bartlett** (1:01)
But what can the average person do?

**Bryan Johnson** (1:03)
One thing that works is ****.

**Steven Bartlett** (1:05)
Really?

**Bryan Johnson** (1:06)
Yeah, it's like the super of superfoods.

**Steven Bartlett** (1:08)
There you go. That is not how you're meant to have that. And what comes next?

**Bryan Johnson** (1:14)
The best is yet to come. Kate Tolough.

**Steven Bartlett** (1:16)
Kate, will you come on out? So you're the first woman on earth to follow Bryan's lifestyle.

**Kate Tolough** (1:24)
That's right.

**Steven Bartlett** (1:25)
What's been the biggest sacrifice? Bryan, you're now coming up on almost three years since you started Blueprint, which is your sort of anti-aging, life-extending longevity protocol. Is that accurate?

**Bryan Johnson** (1:49)
That's accurate.

**Steven Bartlett** (1:51)
Give me a overview of the benefits you've been able to achieve in those three years.

**Bryan Johnson** (1:58)
I legitimately have never been happier in my entire life.
It's like when you have a series of bad nights of sleep and you're eating poorly and you sleep poorly. In a week or two, you just normalize to that new norm. You don't realize what you've lost. It just becomes invisible to you. And then when you bounce back after a really great night's sleep and you take care of yourself, you make the observation, this is the most remarkable thing ever. I wish I could exist like this all the time. And I've hit that state where I'm in the absolute peak performance of my entire life. I've never been as well rested. I've never been as clear with greater clarity of mind. I've never been more calm emotionally. I'm not provoked, I'm not irritable. Things that I struggled with before.

**Steven Bartlett** (2:46)
It's true that you don't know how bad you felt until you feel good. I can relate.

**Bryan Johnson** (2:53)
Dealing with oneself is the most challenging thing. This is from my experience. The most challenging thing in my existence is understanding my own self. Trying to map out where I'm self-aware and where I'm unaware, where my self-awareness ends, and what I've normalized to and come no longer see, what status quo hides from me, what biases I have in my brain, what blind spots I have. I'm blind to so much of reality. And you just have no idea. The brain plays these tricks on us where we believe with confidence that we have, we're the master of our reality, that we see all things, we feel all things, that if something's missing, we're going to note it. But really, my life has become trying to find out what's invisible to me.

**Steven Bartlett** (3:35)
What are some of those psychological biases that you think most people still don't realize are?

**Bryan Johnson** (3:40)
Oh, man, it's like my most favorite topic because we are fooled into thinking that we truly understand our situation, our reality. And there's so many easy tricks one can play. Even something simple, like if you prime somebody with words like grandmother or grandfather or things that trigger thoughts of old age or being slow. And then you ask the person to walk down the hallway to do a task. Those who have been primed with old sounding words, their old associated words and young, the old associated walk more slowly, and the young walk quicker. We incorporate all these things into the way we act and the way we think and what we internally generate. And we just, it's beyond our awareness.

**Steven Bartlett** (4:32)

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