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Rick Rule: Massive Energy Boom Era Ahead = Multi-Decade Investment Opportunity

Thoughtful Money with Adam Taggart

June 19, 2025

Veteran natural resources investor Rick Rule provides an update on the commodities sector: energy (oil, gas, coal, nuclear, wind & solar), precious metals (gold, mining stocks, silver & platinum) and base metals (e.g., copper)WORRIED ABOUT THE MARKET?
Speakers: Rick Rule, Adam Taggart
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**Rick Rule** (0:55)
But the bottom line is the next 20 or 25 years is going to see a dramatic increase in power consumption from the richest of the rich to the poorest of the poor. And it's also going to have to see dramatic investment in developed countries like the United States in the grid. You have to get from the power from where it is to where it isn't. And you have to have the ability for the grid to be addressable. That's probably a five or six trillion dollar bill in the US alone.

**Adam Taggart** (1:34)
Welcome to Thoughtful Money. I'm Thoughtful Money Founder and your host, Adam Taggart. Letting you know, we are very lucky today to talk with perhaps the greatest living natural resources investor alive today, Rick Rule. Rick, how are you doing, my friend?

**Rick Rule** (1:48)
I'm doing very well, Adam. The better for being back on with you. Thank you for having me back.

**Adam Taggart** (1:54)
You're very kind. We're going to talk about silver, and not just the silver tongue that you have there, my friend, but we're going to talk about silver and all sorts of commodity topics today. Rick, you and I, we hop on here every couple of months and talk. I think this is one of the more interesting times to be talking about commodities. There's so much going on in the world right now that is driving current and future commodity demand. I just was starting to put together a list here, but obviously we have the whole AI boom, which is becoming really a top national priority, and that's going to need just a gargantuan amount of new electrical capacity, energy capacity here in the US., but also in all the countries that are competing with the US., so there's going to be massive demands for energy. We obviously have, sadly, the events going on in the Middle East as you and I speak, and that is impacting the price of oil. We've had breakouts in the precious metals, all three, but particularly recently in both platinum and silver.
And through all this, we have supposedly these big trade deals being struck by the new administration with major countries around the world, and commodities are a core part of those trade deals. So it's almost like where to start. So look, I want to touch on as many of those as we can in the time we have today. But before I do, given its proximity and time, let me just give you 60 seconds to remind folks that your annual symposium, which is a phenomenal event, is coming up quite fast. And there's multiple ways in which they could potentially attend that if they're interested, right?

**Rick Rule** (3:33)
Thank you for that opportunity. The Natural Resources Investment Symposium, which covers natural resource and precious metals investing, will take place July 7th through 11th, either live in Boca Raton or via live stream from the comfort and convenience of your own home.
It's gone on for about 30 years, Adam. If you make something a little better every year for 30 years, at the end of the program, it becomes pretty good. I think our conference is actually great. We start with a different kind of macro, not macro from a journalist, not macro from CNBC, but rather macro from players in a biblical sense from the belly of the beast. We have David Stockman coming on talking about the budget. He ran the Office of Management and Budget under Reagan, knows more about the US budget than any person alive. Daniela DiMartino Booth will talk about the Fed, not as a journalist, but as a former Fed researcher. Nomi Prins will talk about the correct, the corrupt nature of Wall Street. Guess what? She was a partner at Goldman Sachs. You get it. We talk about macro from people who lived the organizations that they're talking about. We move on from there to portfolio managers and analysts who have lived and breathed resources for 30 years through bull markets and bear markets. From there, our exhibitors, every single public company exhibitor at the conference is owned and accounts owned and managed by the conference sponsors. No guarantee, sadly, that because I own something, the price goes up. But there is a guarantee that at our conference, the exhibitors are content, not merely advertisements. We turn down more exhibitors than we accept. And finally, Adam, all of those factors allows me to say to your listeners this, which no one else does. If you attend my symposium either live or live stream, first of all, you'll have access to the recordings for 12 months, and you'll need them. But second, if you don't think I delivered value either attending live or live stream, I will refund 100% of your tuition. We've done that for 30 years. We've had to refund less than one-tenth of one percent. But no other conference on the planet that I know of offers complete satisfaction or money back guarantee. Rule Natural Resources Investment Symposium, July 7-11, Boca Raton, or in the comfort and convenience of your own home via live stream.

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