**Patrick Bet-David** (0:00)
So, CEO of Cerebros comes out and says, as AI as an industry has done a terrible job of selling data centers, and we ought to pay our own way. Here he is, go ahead, Rob.
**Kevin O'Leary** (0:11)
Sorry, this is Kevin O'Leary.
**Patrick Bet-David** (0:12)
Oh, no, no, no, Cerebros CEO. Do you have that one or no?
**Kevin O'Leary** (0:15)
Kevin O'Leary looking cool with a little soul pass.
**Patrick Bet-David** (0:16)
Let me play this, and then let me read this, and Rob, and then maybe we'll play that clip. So, Andrew Feldman says, the AI industry has done a poor job of selling data centers to the public. He has a different message in mind, modeled after Microsoft president, Brad Smith.
These can be clean, they can make jobs, they can be good for communities. He said at a 20 VC podcast, we can do it thoughtfully. Feldman, fresh off the chip makers, blockbuster IPO, said AI companies need to be better neighbors when approaching communities where they plan to build massive facilities to house the thousands of advanced chips needed to power AI models. There's no reason why we can't add these to communities and have the community benefit from it. And we have to do some thinking. We all have heavy equipment out there. Build a football field for the local school, build a school, build a church or a synagogue to the community. We can be good neighbors at very, very low cost. Data centers need to be better stewards of local resources. Feldman said in some cases they try to pawn off costs on local community or use outdated financial arrangements that left the community holding the bag, which Tom is raising his hand because he wants to jump into the story. And in others, they were wasteful of resources. This is not cool and none of this needs to be the case. Tom, it sounds like you agree with him.
**Kevin O'Leary** (1:28)
I absolutely agree with him and I thank you for standing up. So you have this incredible IPO that goes out there. Cerebrast goes out there, big IPO, everything going on, and then you have all the things going on. These folks have built data centers. They have one in Santa Clara, Stockton, Dallas and Oklahoma City. Pat, Oklahoma City in terms of speed is one of the fastest data centers in the world. Not the fastest, but it's one of the fastest in the world. And he's got another one planned for Atlanta. So he knows what he's talking about. And he's also, I think, speaking to the rest of the industry. Now, was he speaking like this a year ago? I can't find quotes and things on this, but he's saying the right thing today. And I hope that this is what he's believed. I could go back and read the S1 from the IPO and go see if this is what they were talking about. But when he talks about outdated financial agreements, that's like the bad sports stadiums.
We were talking last week about sports stadiums, Pat, right? Where the cities get all excited and they put a bond out there, which the people got to pay the interest on, the taxpayers. And then they give them tax-free status. And then they promise to build roads and get more access around it, like Miami. And yet they got no new roads and no access in Miami, as you know, Adam, to the Marlin Stadium. And so people are trying to get down to Little Havana. It's always just a grind to get down there. Well, this guy is saying the right things, and I agree with him. And by the way, when he says, let's pay our own way on energy, let me code that for you.
We want to put small nuke, modern technology, modern generation, nuke reactors right next to our data centers, empower them. And if I was the president, I've been saying this over and over again, I would say, give me the pen, I have the pen, excuse me, give me the permits, and let's get these things signed so that we can, Department of Energy, EPA, everybody worked together on this, let's get this signed, let's put them in there with one caveat.
If tornadoes take out a lot of things locally, and we need power backup, you turn down the power in your data center, flip the switch, and take your reactor, and pump the power out to the public electric network. That's all I want you to do. I just want you, your permit comes with, in the event of civil emergency, usually weather in the Midwest, in this case, I want you to, it could be earthquakes, Santa Clara is in California, so Stockton, you do it. But I like this. I think this is where capitalism meets corporate stewardship, means responsibly community, member of community.
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