Nadella says Musk never raised concerns to him about Microsoft artwork

Nadella says Musk never raised concerns to him about Microsoft

Elon Musk Podcast

May 12, 2026

Microsoft CEO Satya Nadella took the witness stand Monday in the trial about control of the artificial intelligence startup OpenAI.
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Elon Musk is suing Sam Altman, Greg Brockman and Microsoft for $150 billion, claiming they stole a charitable organization to create an $852 billion artificial intelligence empire.

**SPEAKER_2** (1:44)
Yeah, that financial demand is, I mean, it is staggering. The accusation really strikes at the very foundation of corporate law. Because this entire dispute centers around an organization that originally presented itself to the world as a strict nonprofit. The stated goal was purely altruistic, right? The founders declared they were dedicating the organization entirely to protecting humanity from the potential dangers of artificial intelligence. But, well, to survive the brutal economic realities of tech development, that organization completely restructured. They adopted a capped profit model, took in billions upon billions of dollars in corporate investment, and transferred all of their valuable intellectual property into a commercial entity.

**SPEAKER_6** (2:27)
So can a mission to protect humanity actually survive the financial gravity of a trillion dollar technology market?

**SPEAKER_2** (2:33)
That is the exact tension driving this entire courtroom battle.

**SPEAKER_6** (2:37)
Yeah, and we have to look at how this started to understand the magnitude of that shift. Elon Musk, the plaintiff here, provided the critical early funding. He donated tens of millions of dollars to start this artificial intelligence lab.

**SPEAKER_2** (2:50)
He did, yeah. And he personally helped recruit the initial engineering and research talent too.

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Right, because the fundamental agreement, the entire premise of the organization, was that this would be a non-profit open-source operation designed specifically to serve as a counterweight to Google's dominance in the tech sector.

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Exactly.

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The idea was that if one massive profit-driven corporation controlled the most powerful technology ever created, well, that would be incredibly dangerous for society.
So the solution was to create an open research lab that effectively belonged to humanity. You fund it with donations, you publish the research freely for anyone to use, and you keep the profit motive entirely out of the equation.

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So the engineers can focus on safety rather than quarterly earnings, right? But that philosophical ideal, it immediately crashed into a fundamental physical roadblock. I mean, the astronomical cost of computing power. Greg Brockman, the president of the company, actually testified in court that their internal financial projections showed their computing bills were on track to rise to $50 billion.

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Wait, back up. Why does creating this software cost $50 billion? I mean, I know hardware is expensive, and semiconductor companies are making a killing right now. But $50 billion is the gross domestic product of a small country.
Are they actually buying the physical hardware or just renting server time? How does the math on that even work?

**SPEAKER_2** (4:12)
Well, it requires looking at what artificial intelligence actually is at a physical level. Okay. Traditional software is highly efficient. A human being writes specific lines of code, compiling logic into a program that a standard computer can run easily.

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