MFM Goes to Jail - Plus Startup Cities, Prospera, Julian Shapiro Building a Ranch, Testing Out Big Purchases, and More

**Sam Parr** (0:00)
All right, there's this amazing book called Getting Everything You Can Out of All You've Got. I read it a few years ago and it changed my life.
And the reason I loved it was because it basically talks about how to get and make more money using things that you already have.
Coincidentally, today's podcast is brought to you by Business Made Simple. It's a podcast by Donald Miller, who I'm gonna tell you about in a second, but he has this amazing episode that's all related to this book and the things that I learned in this book. It's called How to Make Money with What You Already Have. It's an incredible episode. It talks about all the stuff that I learned in this book. The host is Donald Miller. I didn't know who Donald Miller was up until recently, but over the last 12 months, this is totally by coincidence. It was all separate people. They said, you have to check out Donald Miller. He's amazing. So I'm happy that he's part of HubSpot's Podcast Network. You can check it out, Business Made Simple Podcast. It's where he coaches you on how to build your business like an airplane, where the cockpit is your leadership, the body is your overhead, the right engine is your marketing, the left engine is your sales.
You have to check it out. This guy's amazing. It's called Business Made Simple with Donald Miller.

**Shaan Puri** (1:01)
And he's like, you afraid of me, huh?
And I was like, yeah, I'm afraid. And he goes, that's your truth, huh?

**Sam Parr** (1:21)
How was Wednesday?

**Shaan Puri** (1:23)
It was good, man. Ramon was on.
So, you know Ramon. Ramon is the best. So, Ramon came on and did his thing. He was the best.

**Sam Parr** (1:30)
Good.
I'm happy for him. He's getting a bunch of wins right now. And that makes me happy for him.

**Shaan Puri** (1:37)
You, where were you? So, you were doing something interesting. That's why you're out.

**Sam Parr** (1:41)
Come back, tell us a story.
Yeah, let me tell you what I did. So, I volunteer with this program called The Last Mile. It was started by my friend, Chris Redlitz. Chris started, he did a bunch of stuff. He was early at Reebok. So, he's 65 years old. He was an early employee at Reebok, when he probably became very financially successful there. Then he started a company that he took public. And then he started a VC fund that I believe was quite successful. They were in on wish.com and a few other things.
And he started this charity or nonprofit called The Last Mile. And the whole vision behind this thing is basically, I'm not supposed to use the word inmates. They've asked me not to use the word inmates, but sometimes I'm still gonna use that word because that's what most people know what it means. But basically, prison inmates, they are gonna get out.

**Shaan Puri** (2:25)
What do they want you to say?

**Sam Parr** (2:27)
Well, and it's a good terminology and good way of thinking, but basically they're like, well, look, we're trying to get them out of prison and into the mindset of they're gonna be working and having a job. We don't wanna refer to them as offenders, as inmates, but students.
Students, okay.

**Shaan Puri** (2:41)
But that would be confusing in this context, okay, yeah.

**Sam Parr** (2:43)
In this context, yes. And so I'm gonna kind of go against the rules in this context. So there's something like a million people in prison, right? And a lot of guys are there for 10, 20, 30 years for manslaughter, for doing whatever.
They're gonna get out. And whether you forgive them for their crime or not, the fact is, is that they're gonna get out. And so the last mile is teaching them how to code for about two or three years through a program, and then helping them get jobs at like Slack, I believe eBay, things like that.
And they've graduated, I think 800 people out of prison who have went through the program, and none of them have gone back to prison. And I believe the average prison, the average person who goes to prison, I think it's like a 65% chance that they go back to prison.
So the fact is that these guys, like for example, I was with this one guy who basically, he caught his wife cheating, and they got into an argument. According to the news, I Googled it, she like went to fight him with a hammer, he grabbed the hammer and killed her.
And he was in prison for 20 years. And I was hanging out with this guy, which is weird. That's weird. You know, that's like a mindfuck. And he was like, yeah, I'm gonna get out in three years.