JRE MMA Show #176 with Dustin Poirier

**Joe Rogan** (0:03)
The Joe Rogan Experience.

**SPEAKER_3** (0:06)
Trained by day, Joe Rogan Podcast by night, all day.

**SPEAKER_4** (0:13)
Good to see you, my friend.

**SPEAKER_5** (0:14)
Good to be back, bro.

**SPEAKER_4** (0:15)
Dustin Poirier, the light heavyweight.

**SPEAKER_5** (0:17)
Yeah, it's thick boy summer.

**SPEAKER_4** (0:20)
You looking healthy, son.

**SPEAKER_5** (0:21)
Yeah, like 190, man.

**SPEAKER_4** (0:22)
You look good, man.

**SPEAKER_5** (0:23)
I feel good, dude. It feels good to eat and not count carbohydrates and calories.

**SPEAKER_4** (0:27)
Yeah, we were talking about that, where you like still like a little part of you is like looks at meals and goes, oh, well, I mean, for the last 20 years, I've been macro.

**SPEAKER_5** (0:36)
And, you know, I knew I had a fight coming up. Even if I didn't have a fight, I had to be in striking range from 155

**SPEAKER_4** (0:41)
Right.

**SPEAKER_5** (0:41)
So I was always looking at the back of every label, being real cautious. What I eat is like ingrained in my daughter. Now, when we go to Whole Foods, she'll grab something off the counter and say, Dad, it only has three ingredients. Like, she knows what's up.

**SPEAKER_4** (0:52)
Well, it's good to think that way anyway, for sure, especially with the ingredients.

**SPEAKER_5** (0:56)
Yeah, that's the first thing she goes to. Like, if she wants some chips, it only has five ingredients. That's like a thing for her when we're shopping.

**SPEAKER_4** (1:04)
Yeah, well, that's smart, man. That's cool. You're raising them right.

**SPEAKER_5** (1:07)
I'm trying to, bro. I'm trying to put the stuff I learned in fighting, you know, all the years.

**SPEAKER_4** (1:11)
Yeah. It's kind of crazy. I think it's the worst thing about fighting is the weight cutting. Do you imagine if everybody just... First of all, tell me if you agree, that I think the UFC needs way more weight classes.

**SPEAKER_5** (1:26)
I do too.

**SPEAKER_4** (1:26)
Way more.

**SPEAKER_5** (1:27)
I do too. Because the gaps are so big, I mean, just if you look at boxing compared to mixed martial arts, the jumps in weight are so big from each weight class. But also, all the shows they're putting on, they'd have more titles, more belts, more big fights. But also, man, with that, there's gonna be a lot of people trying to cut a little bit extra, trying to be double champ in every weight class. I think it does cause more confusion.

**SPEAKER_4** (1:49)
Yeah, but that's better than the extreme weight cuts. The extreme weight cuts are terrible. You saw that dude a few, I guess it was about three events ago, who face planted and got removed off the card. That is crazy. You're getting someone to the brink of death 24 hours before they have an MMA fight, which is the most, if not the most dangerous sport, one of the most dangerous sports in the world. And you're doing something to your body to extremely weaken it 24 hours before you fight. It's bananas.

**SPEAKER_5** (2:21)
Dude, I did it so many times. You preach it to the choir.

**SPEAKER_4** (2:23)
I know.

**SPEAKER_5** (2:24)
There's been so many times I've felt like that, like stand up too quick after a weight cut, and I'm like, you know, I might go down.

**SPEAKER_4** (2:29)
Oh, dude. I mean, I can only imagine. When you see someone like Perera that's cutting like 25 pounds and more, when he was 185, I mean, that guy was fighting inside the octagon at 225 and weighing in at 185 24 hours before. That's crazy.

**SPEAKER_5** (2:49)
And even when he's big, he's lean. You know, it's not like he's fluffy.

**SPEAKER_4** (2:52)
Well, they say that when you're muscular, it's easier to cut weight.

**SPEAKER_5** (2:58)
More water.

**SPEAKER_4** (2:58)
It's water.

**SPEAKER_5** (2:59)
Yeah.

**SPEAKER_4** (2:59)
Yeah. Which is counterintuitive. You see a fat guy, you're like, oh, that guy can cut weight. But you really can't because you can't de-plenish your fat.

**SPEAKER_5** (3:07)
Right. Not in a training camp's time, eight weeks, ten weeks. You can't lose like 30 pounds of fat.

**SPEAKER_4** (3:14)
I said de-plenish like it was a real word.

**SPEAKER_5** (3:15)
You can dehydrate yourself.

**SPEAKER_4** (3:17)
I don't think it is a word. De-plenish?

**SPEAKER_6** (3:19)
Well, if you can re-plenish.

**SPEAKER_4** (3:20)
Right, but no one says de-plenish.

**SPEAKER_6** (3:22)
Can you plenish?

**SPEAKER_4** (3:23)
No, you say de-pleat, but I just threw it out there like it was real. I don't think de-plenish is a word. Is that a word?

**SPEAKER_6** (3:30)
Yeah.

**SPEAKER_4** (3:30)
It is? I don't think I've ever used it that way.

**SPEAKER_6** (3:32)
Respect.

**Dustin Poirier** (3:33)