James Haskell: 11 Surgeries Before 35 - The Real Cost of Rugby.

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**James Haskell** (0:30)
Leave no stone unturned in the pursuit of trying to be something successful. If you get up on the daze when you don't want to, and you do train in the rain, and you do lift the weights, and you do get up when it's freezing cold. I became addicted to that. They didn't tell me at the time that he had two bullet holes in his shoulders as a Chechen freedom fighter. He jumps over, he goes, I hate the English, headbutts the bus, splits his head open, security bundle him over, and we go into the stadium. This is what I want. Big occasion, big spectacle, pressure, crowd. I remember singing the anthems, and all the hairs in the back of my neck going up. And I was like, I want more of this.

**Eddie Hall** (1:10)
Welcome back to The Good, The Bad & The Beast. Today's guest is a former England International Rugby player whose career has been filled with highs, near misses and reinvention from Six Nations Glory and Alliance Selection to Life in the Spotlight, reality TV, and now DJing on major stages. He's never stood still. Please welcome to the podcast James Haskell.

**James Haskell** (1:34)
Hello brother, how are you?

**Eddie Hall** (1:35)
Very good, how are you?

**James Haskell** (1:36)
Very well, sir. Very well, actually. Good, yeah, I'm all right. It's nice to be here, man.

**Eddie Hall** (1:39)
Oh, thank you.

**James Haskell** (1:40)
You've had some pretty stellar starters. Obviously, everyone must be not answering your calls to get me on here, but I'll take the call.

**Eddie Hall** (1:46)
Not at all. It's an absolute pleasure and an honor to have you here, man.

**James Haskell** (1:50)
Because we'd obviously met a couple of times, but the last time I think I spoke to you was when for your book, wasn't it?

**Eddie Hall** (1:54)
Yeah, a couple of years back.

**James Haskell** (1:56)
Yeah.

**Eddie Hall** (1:57)
First time I met you was at the, I think it was some, do you remember Body Power?

**James Haskell** (2:00)
Yeah, Body Power. Yeah. Does that still go or not?

**Eddie Hall** (2:02)
No, I don't think it is. At the NEC in Birmingham. Probably, I'm going to say like 2012

**James Haskell** (2:09)
Yeah, it would have been around that time. I had my, what was it, a fat burner at Hades. We had a stand. We had like a rur, like a grinding challenge thing.

**Eddie Hall** (2:19)
Right.

**James Haskell** (2:19)
Yeah, I remember. Yeah, that was cool. Body Power is weird, isn't it? People would train all year, just get absolutely shredded and walk around in their pants.

**Eddie Hall** (2:25)
Yes. Yeah, I was one of them.

**James Haskell** (2:27)
Yeah. Well, you look great for it anyway. No one's going to argue as well. Like, Mr. Hall, please keep your pants on.

**Eddie Hall** (2:30)
Yeah, that was pretty much it. To get started, I always ask, I guess, to bring a piece of the beast. Did the producer remind you?

**James Haskell** (2:37)
Yeah, he did.

**Eddie Hall** (2:37)
He did. Have you got this said artifact or picture with you?

**James Haskell** (2:40)
It's actually a picture. Shall we talk about it now?

**Eddie Hall** (2:43)
Let's get it out there and show us the picture. Yeah.

**James Haskell** (2:46)
It was one of those moments I was actually trying to think about. I was trying to find a photo of me in my clothes on, was important. But I found this photo, and actually, it was something that someone was talking to me about. And it's a photo of me and Chris Robshell. It's 2016 in the change room at the Stade de France. And basically, we're holding up two six and a half shirts. And for me, the reason it's significant was, when you're a professional athlete, people obviously talk about your individual battle in your performance, and that is important. But actually, you can get your old career without winning stuff. You know better than anyone. I've talked to you on The Good, The Bad & The Beast, and you said, winning World's Strongest Man, and then breaking the world record for, setting the world record for a deadlift, two in comparison.