Is This The End Of The Pod?

**Shaan Puri** (0:00)
All right, we need to talk about this. The podcast is either going to end today, or we're going to figure this out. Is that dramatic enough for you? Okay. Sam, can we start? Can I start with an apology?

**Sam Parr** (0:25)
Yes.

**Shaan Puri** (0:26)
Can I say sorry? I was... Let me check my notes. I was a little pissy yesterday. And you were on the receiving end of me being a little pissy. We had a fight, an argument, a disagreement, a lover's quarrel. I don't know what you want to call it. We had something. And I want to talk about it here. Not just because I'm a sicko and I'm like, oh, this is good content, Jerry Springer, but mostly because I thought about it a lot afterwards. I found it kind of fascinating. And at first, I felt really bad. I don't know about you, but I felt really horrible the rest of the day. So without discussing the specifics, I want to talk about what I learned after that fight. Can we do that?

**Sam Parr** (1:07)
Okay.

**Shaan Puri** (1:08)
Okay. So here's the story. We got in a fight yesterday and I wouldn't even call it really a fight.

**Sam Parr** (1:16)
It's like every six months, there's just disagreements that we had to work through.

**Shaan Puri** (1:21)
Exactly. And like most things, it starts off as a misunderstanding, turns into a disagreement, which leads to an argument, which leads to a fight, and then it de-escalates into a grumpy agreement, and you move on. Can I first tell you why I even wanted to talk about this?

**Sam Parr** (1:38)
Yeah.

**Shaan Puri** (1:39)
Do you know who JJ McCarthy is by any chance? He's a rookie football player. He's a quarterback for the Vikings. So he's a rookie.

**Sam Parr** (1:46)
Yeah. I don't know who he is, but I know the name.

**Shaan Puri** (1:48)
Football, he just got drafted. And like any, you know, a team that sucks, they draft a quarterback. They're hoping he's going to turn the franchise around. And he just had their first like preseason game, not even in the season yet. And he threw an interception while he was playing. So after the game, he's doing an interview. I'm scrolling on Twitter and I see this. And I'm seeing this after we have our fight. And the interviewer asks him, she goes, JJ, you go out there, you want to perform well. But, you know, you throw that interception.
And I'm sure, you know, that did feel great. You know, what? Just talk me through, what was going through your mind? And how are you feeling after doing that? And this guy's response was epic. He goes, what was going through my mind? What an opportunity. She goes, what an opportunity? And he goes, yeah, I mean, this whole, my success in my career is going to be based, I'm a quarterback in the NFL. My success in my career is going to be based on my resilience, my ability to bounce back from mistakes. I throw an interception, what an opportunity to learn and to get better and to improve. And I was like, whoa, fucking mindset alert. You know, I pride myself on mindset. I am a student of mindset. And when I heard that, I thought, wow, that was an uncommon response to a very common situation. I would say most guys are down on it, but then they'll lie and be like, well, I just, you know, had to focus on the next play, just put it out of my head and, you know, just get better, you know? But they're kind of bitter about it. And this guy was so genuine when he said, what an opportunity. And so I kind of had that same thought where I was feeling bad after our fight. And I thought, I saw that clip and I thought, okay, what an opportunity for me to learn here. And the reason I think it's an opportunity for me was, we joke on this podcast, I'm generally super laid back. Like, I don't really get easily bothered. I pride myself and have a good mindset. But of course, I'm a human being, I mess up, which is why when I get bothered, it's rare and I suck at it. And so I wanted to tell you some of the things that I reflected on afterwards. I have like five to seven thoughts. Can I just read them out to you?

**Sam Parr** (3:47)
Yeah, and I might have a few as well.

**Shaan Puri** (3:49)
So first one, fights don't start as fights. And what I mean by this is you never start, you never start a conversation intending to fight, nor do you even really see a fight coming. And the way the analogy I was using in my head was like, oh, a fight is like a forest fire. When a forest fire happens, the explanation they usually come to is, well, there was like a bunch of the, what do they call it? Like the dry bush or whatever, like the kind of the dead sticks that go on the ground. And it's sort of this accumulation, this pile of sticks that nobody really clears out. And it's not a problem until somebody drops a cigarette on it. And it could be something that you just squish out with your foot right away. You put it out, there's no big deal. But if you don't put it out right away, that accumulated dry stuff can catch fire. It can become a wildfire. It could tear down a whole forest. And so that was my first observation was, man, that the debris on the on the forest floor is kind of like a hidden danger. It's a dog that's not barking. And you have to make sure that if a cigarette does drop on it, you're able to kind of immediately put it out or clear it out ahead of time. That was the first thought.