**Daniil Liberman** (0:00)
What kind of reality we will see in the future mostly depend on whether big tech companies will have control on who has access to artificial intelligence.
**Marina Mogilko** (0:11)
These are David and Daniel Liberman, investors and founders who sold their company to Snap. Now they're building Gonca, a decentralized AI network designed to make AI more open and affordable so anyone can win with it.
**Daniil Liberman** (0:23)
Do you know what is the share of Dario Amodei, founder of Anthropic, creator of Clot, in his own company?
**Marina Mogilko** (0:29)
What is it?
**Daniil Liberman** (0:30)
1.5%.
**Marina Mogilko** (0:31)
Oh, really?
**David Liberman** (0:32)
People who build it, people who brought their values into this, they are not in control anymore.
**Marina Mogilko** (0:39)
What should people be doing now to thrive in two or three years?
**David Liberman** (0:43)
Everything will be disrupted. Every single job will be disrupted.
**Marina Mogilko** (0:46)
How much time do we have?
Hello, everyone. Welcome to Silicon Valley Girl. I have my amazing friends today, Liberman Brothers. They're not only friends who I've known since 2015 They're also my first investors who believed in me and the whole round that happened in 2021, which became the first ever venture round in a creator. It happened because of you guys. Thank you so much.
**David Liberman** (1:13)
Because of you.
**Marina Mogilko** (1:15)
Thank you for believing in me. And yeah, it's fascinating to see how much happened after that. You've been in technology circles and building stuff for a while.
So I really want to focus on what's going on right now and what's happening with AI. And AI has been the most discussed technological revolution in the past two years. But what I'm noticing, and I'm sure a lot of people who are watching this will agree that we're talking a lot about AI. And obviously, it's changing life for coders because a lot of people generate 80 percent of their code, maybe more. But when you take an ordinary person, yes, the search is better now, the productivity is maybe up. But there hasn't been a life-changing event for humanity yet. So do you think AI is overhyped?
**David Liberman** (2:01)
I would start with contradicting to what you said. Life changed because people started trusting one source of information in the chat. Like, what is this? What is that? And they don't check multiple sources as they used to with the Internet. And this is something pivotal, honestly, already. Therefore, we will have some consequences about that.
Already, from this point. When was the last time you were actually doing your research in Google? Like, not through the ChatGPT or other platform with agents doing all the swarming research for you and stuff. Like, this changed. We somehow started trusting this technology, which not always is correct.
**Daniil Liberman** (2:42)
What kind of reality we will see in the future mostly depend on whether someone will be able to get access to artificial intelligence.
If artificial intelligence will be freely accessible by every human on earth, if it will become actually a commodity when it's like cheap, as cheap as possible, then each of us for sure will use AI to increase our productivity. But definitely in other scenarios possible, if big tech firms will be able to get access and decide who can have the access or not.
**David Liberman** (3:22)
I'll give you an example. Someone recently asked us about like, what about the plumbers? Will they be actually replaced with the robots or like with AI? What's going to happen there? How can AI actually make innovation in there?
In our house, where we moved three years ago, for this past three years, we had the problem with hot water. And we were complaining to the landlord. He called for the plumber several times. They came there and like, oh, you need to replace the entire heating system. It's going to be very expensive. And then at some point, we basically pointed the ChatGPT through the camera into the piping system. And it's like, what's wrong here?
And the chat said like, looks like it's missing one small part here, like a pipe, which will actually close the loop here and blah, blah, blah. So we started discussing this problem with the plumber. After three years, we now have instant hot water with just one tiny...
**Marina Mogilko** (4:20)
But you still need a physical labor, yes?
**David Liberman** (4:22)
Absolutely. But imagine that it's not us who should convince the plumber that they should do this job, but the AI in their own earpiece, which is like, looks like there's this stuff missing there. And they fixed everything. The first time when we called them three years ago, and they were like, oh, best guys ever, five stars, you fixed the problem. Hooray. Instead, we were suffering for three years before actually AI came in.
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