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Private companies, they set the minimum investment amounts at levels that are probably beyond what the average investor is able to commit.
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You and the team at Pangana, how do you then practically go and get access to those companies?
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Either we'll invest directly into the equity or we will co-invest. We established AIX in order to help bridge that gap, to provide exposure to the unlisted companies at a time in the investment cycle, when there was still a real opportunity for value creation, before they'd be in the pickup that's often associated with the transition to public markets.
**Owen Rask** (2:05)
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SpaceX IPO'd for $2 trillion US dollars or thereabouts, which is a lot of Australian dollars. I don't even want to calculate that on the fly. But what it demonstrated to me was that so much of the value of these generational companies, these amazing companies, is actually created before the company gets to the stock market. And unless you work for SpaceX or you work for one of these companies, how can you benefit from that? This is what we call the private market. And today, we're going to talk about that with Adam from Pingana. We're going to talk about how do you actually get exposure to that stuff before everyone else has figured it out on the public market. Now, we're going to go deep into a few companies. We're going to talk about portfolio construction and a few other things as well.
If you like private markets, if you are interested in technology and AI, this is the episode for you. I hope you enjoy it. Adam, welcome to the show.
**Adam Myers** (3:18)
Thank you. Pleasure to chat to you.
**Owen Rask** (3:20)
Always a pleasure, mate. We've had you on the show before. It was a cracker of an episode. And today, we're talking about AI, we're talking about technology, we're talking about private markets. This is like perfect. I told you this morning in an email that private markets and AI are probably the two things that everyone wants to talk about right now and our community is really interested in.
I did some quick math before today's show, and SpaceX IPOed for a $2 trillion market cap. It's a lot of money in Australian dollars. It created 4,100 million employees, and 400 of them went on to have a net worth over $100 million.
That's a lot of value, a lot of money being created basically, or at least being realized on day one of this company coming to the stock market. What does that say to you?
**Adam Myers** (4:12)
Well, firstly, those are amazing stats. It's unbelievable how well they've executed.
What it tells me is how much value is being created in private markets before public market investors have an opportunity to participate in these companies at all. If we think away about how the model used to work, and it wasn't particularly long ago, promising growth companies would come to the stock exchange, would raise public equity, and investors would be able to participate along the journey as they went from promising to potentially industry-leading. Google is a great example. When Google IPOed, it was at a $25 billion valuation. Investors, public market investors got aboard at that stage, and today, it's worth $4.2 trillion. So it's been a great ride for investors. Today, it's changed because there is no shortage of capital available for great companies in the private markets. So founders can attract employees. They can build the businesses according to the long-term vision. They can retain that control without the inconvenience of public market listing, without the short-termism that creeps in when you've got a report on a quarterly basis.
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