How I run a team of AI Agents 24/7

**Greg Isenberg** (0:00)
I don't think it's crazy to say that the people who know how to run teams of AI agents are gonna be able to outperform everyone else in this AI age we're in. So how do you actually run teams of AI agents? What does this mean? What's the step-by-step way to actually do this? And what are the tools you need to know, like Devin AI, to actually go and do this? Well, on today's episode, I brought on Ryan Carson, and he clearly explains all of this for you. He even gives you a tour of his insane setup for how he manages his AI agent. So by the end of this episode, you're going to understand what cloud agents are, how you can set up automations, how you can create a software factory that creates software 24-7, and you're going to be able to understand it just really clearly, because he does such a good job at explaining all of this. So enjoy the episode, I'll see you at the end, and have a creative day.
Ryan Carson, back on the pod, by the end of this episode, Ryan, what are people going to get out of this?

**Ryan Carson** (1:06)
So you're going to be able to do three things really well. You're going to be able to run cloud agents, you're going to be able to do automations, and you're going to be able to ship faster. So whether you're a founder, a solopreneur, a stay at home parent, you're just going to become an agent pro by the time we're done.

**Greg Isenberg** (1:27)
Okay, because I think a lot of people listening to this might have, they've played with agents, cloud agents, but you're going to help them just get the confidence basically to be world class. I think that's what I'm trying to, that's what I've been thinking a lot about. It's like, okay, there's a bunch of people who have played with agents, so how do we become world class agent operators?

**Ryan Carson** (1:50)
Yeah, essentially you are a manager of agents now. So no matter what you used to do, whether it was a people manager or an IC, you are going to become a manager of agents now and you need to be the best in the world. And it doesn't matter whether you're a VC, a founder, an IC, a mom, a dad, like a college student, you should manage agents and be the best at it. And we're going to show you some tips for that.

**Greg Isenberg** (2:15)
Okay, so where do we start?

**Ryan Carson** (2:17)
Okay, so let me give some context, right? So people understand where is this coming from. So I've been a founder CEO for like 25 years. I'm working on my fourth company now. At my last company, Treehouse, which was acquired, we had, you know, I think up to like 110 full-time employees, taught a million people how to code. You know, so I've done the whole build organization thing and manage organization thing. And you learn a lot about managing people on that. And now this startup, which I'm running, I am one employee right now. So we've raised a seed round. We're scaling really fast. Our revenue probably is going to 4x this month. And I'm probably going to be hiring my first employees. We are essentially an AI divorce agent for divorce firms. So we do the dirty topic that no one seems to want to tackle. It's just family law. So I've learned a lot about how to scale me, right? And so I'm going to help folks understand how do you manage a lot of agents well? How do you check the work? How do you automate things? How do you work from your phone? You know, I do almost 50 percent, probably more of my work from my phone.
And it's pretty wild. So that's where we're going to take you. And I will say as well, like, this is going to change every three to six months.
So, we're going to share a lot with you. Get your hands dirty. Try it.
And the best way to learn is to do.

**Greg Isenberg** (3:50)
Cool. Yeah. I'm actually, I'm particularly interested in the phone stuff because I actually do zero percent of my stuff on the phone.

**Ryan Carson** (3:56)
What?

**Greg Isenberg** (3:57)
Yeah.

**Ryan Carson** (3:57)
Okay.

**Greg Isenberg** (3:58)
Let's talk.

**Ryan Carson** (3:59)
So, let me start by just showing you, well, when I'm at my desk, what is the world like? Right. So right now, I'm in my home office.
I work from Connecticut.
I do all my desk work here. I've got this big 52-inch Dell monitor. I used to have a couple of monitors and I was like, screw it, I just want a huge monitor. So, let me share my screen.