Hour 4: Argentina Defeats England & Why Messi Is the Undisputed GOAT artwork

Hour 4: Argentina Defeats England & Why Messi Is the Undisputed GOAT

The Carton Show with Craig Carton & Chris McMonigle

July 15, 2026

Craig and Chris McMonigle analyze Argentina's dramatic victory over England in a simulated matchup and debate Lionel Messi's status as the soccer GOAT. They also explore the New York Giants' offensive plans for Jackson Dart and preview a high-stakes series between the Yankees and Dodgers.
Speakers: Chris McMonigle, Craig Carton
**Chris McMonigle** (0:00)
Not it? Not it.

**Craig Carton** (0:04)
It's good, it's good. I forgot to look, because I was watching the soccer.

**Chris McMonigle** (0:10)
Yeah.

**Craig Carton** (0:11)
It's a Nirvana.

**Chris McMonigle** (0:12)
Hey, toss me the...

**Craig Carton** (0:13)
Yeah, sure...

**Chris McMonigle** (0:13)
.the fan focus thing.

**Craig Carton** (0:14)
Oh, here, I don't know which one it is. Go ahead and knock yourself out. Thank you. So real quick, 2-1 Argentina.
Oh, I'm sorry. Is that what you need to do over there?

**Chris McMonigle** (0:25)
You're a frustrating person. Why would I ask for the fan focus?
I knew you were going to go into it. The fan focus is presented by Chef IQ. Watch the game, Not The Grill. Get your gear at chefiq.com. And yes, Argentina takes a 2-1 lead.

**Craig Carton** (0:39)
No goal scored in the first half. England takes the lead in the second half, 1-0. Argentina tied it 1-1. And then in extra time, this happened.
I do.

**Chris McMonigle** (1:50)
I do.

**Craig Carton** (1:51)
So in any event, yeah. So we'll try to get that for you as well. But that's the way it looks right now, that it's going to be an Argentina-Spain World Cup final.
So make it that way you will, I suppose.

**Chris McMonigle** (2:04)
I guess.

**Craig Carton** (2:05)
I'm trying to find the...
I don't know why I can't find it. I'll find it for you at some point. All right? Because it's on my mind now. I'm not going to be able to sleep tonight until I find the specific one I'm looking for. All right? But there you have it. Do you have any interest in Sunday's final now or no? You have Messi obviously playing.

**Chris McMonigle** (2:24)
I guess some. I'll probably watch a little bit.

**Craig Carton** (2:26)
You will, right?

**Chris McMonigle** (2:27)
I mean, what time is the game?

**Craig Carton** (2:29)
I think it's in the afternoon on Sunday.

**Chris McMonigle** (2:31)
Yankees Dodgers is Sunday Night Baseball, so...

**Craig Carton** (2:33)
All right, so you'll be available.

**Chris McMonigle** (2:35)
As long as it's not, you know, in prime time.

**Craig Carton** (2:38)
But, brother, I was looking at a schedule. Are you doing a show from Fanatics Fest on Sunday or Saturday?

**Chris McMonigle** (2:43)
Just Saturday.

**Craig Carton** (2:43)
Oh, you are. So you're going to be there physically on Saturday?

**Chris McMonigle** (2:45)
I'll be there on Saturday as well.

**Craig Carton** (2:46)
Oh, you should bring the family to that.

**Chris McMonigle** (2:48)
I am.

**Craig Carton** (2:49)
Look at you.

**Chris McMonigle** (2:49)
I might bring them Friday. We'll see.

**Craig Carton** (2:51)
You might bring them on Friday.

**Chris McMonigle** (2:52)
I might bring them on Friday as well.

**Craig Carton** (2:54)
It's a 3 p.m. final, MetLife Stadium.

**Chris McMonigle** (2:57)
I'll watch.

**Craig Carton** (2:58)
So there you go.
I guess it depends. Like, you know the problem with it is, let's say it's a 90 degree sunny day on Sunday. Am I really going to spend the afternoon indoors watching it when I got wood, I got a split?

**Chris McMonigle** (3:13)
You have outdoor TV. Project that bad boy on. Oh, that only works at night.

**Craig Carton** (3:16)
It's only good at night because the sun, the glare.

**Chris McMonigle** (3:18)
And there's the flaw.

**Craig Carton** (3:19)
Yeah. What's that like a flaw? It's just, you know, I wouldn't watch TV outside in a 90 degree day when I've got wood to split.

**Chris McMonigle** (3:27)
I hate to bring this up again, but I feel like I need to say it for some reason deep in my soul.

**Craig Carton** (3:31)
Go ahead.

**Chris McMonigle** (3:31)
If I were a die hard, die hard, Argentina fan, I guess the game just went final. If I were a Argentina final fan or an England fan, and they put up next to the final time, nine plus. All said was nine plus. And they were already over nine minutes.

**Craig Carton** (3:48)
Yes.

**Chris McMonigle** (3:48)
And the clock's just ticking and they're playing soccer. And I don't know when I'm going to be able to declare myself a loser or a champion, I would be beside myself. I get it. But if I were a giant fan and the Eagles were driving in the NFC Championship game, the NFC Championship game, and they're driving down the field, Giants up by four points, and the Eagles are driving and they go, Oh, we're not sure when the game ends. The clock's already hit zero. But we're just going to see because of there was some other issues earlier in the game. And we're just playing and I don't know when that clock's going to hit zero.

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