Ep.228: More Rogue AI Agents, AI Lab Staff Ask Washington to Pace Development, Continuing Battle Over Open Weights & OpenAI Previews Astra

**Paul Roetzer** (0:00)
I think there's just people who have very loud voices right now within the industry who seem to want to be right themselves more than they want the right outcome for society.
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Welcome to Episode 228 of The Artificial Intelligence Show. I'm your host, Paul Roetzer, and I'm with my co-host, Mike Kaput. We are recording Monday, August 3rd, around 9 AM. Mike and I actually have a golf outing today. We do. Going right from here to Pam and Joe Pulizzi, our friends at the Orange Effect Foundation. It is their annual fundraiser for the Orange Effect Foundation, which is an incredible nonprofit that they created years back. So we are going to support them and a wonderful cause on a beautiful day. Like we could not have got a better day to be on the golf course.
So we're going to knock this out and then we're going to go spend some time on the course. So today's episode is brought to us by Maicon, the AI Conference for Marketing and Business Leaders. It's going to be happening in Cleveland, Ohio, October 13 to 15 Maicon is three days of keynotes, sessions, workshops, and conversations built specifically for marketing and business leaders who are actively figuring out how to adopt, operationalize, and scale AI across their organizations. You can use pod100, that's P-O-D 100 at checkout to save $100 on top of locking in the best rates available right now. Go to maicon.ai, that's M-A-I-C-O-NAI to register. This is our seventh Maicon. Is that right, Mike?

**Mike Kaput** (2:09)
Yeah, I think so. Yeah.

**Paul Roetzer** (2:10)
I think I share the stories. But yeah, so I started Maicon in 2019, which would have been three years before ChatGPT.

**Mike Kaput** (2:19)
Yeah.

**Paul Roetzer** (2:19)
And I always, I guess, joke, because I can laugh about it now, but like survived financially long enough to see ChatGPT emerge.
It was a difficult few years running an AI conference before ChatGPT showed up. So we are eternally grateful that people supported it in the beginning, before they knew really what AI was and that they continued to support it. So we're looking forward to having thousands of people together in Cleveland. Hope you can join us October 13th to the 15th. Again, that's maicon.ai. All right. So the AI Pulse, again, if you're new to the show, our weekly show, this is the informal poll that we do each week. It's smarterx.ai/pulse is where you can go and participate in these. At the end, Mike will give you a reminder about this week's survey. So last week, so this would have been from episode 226 of the show, so episode 227 was Mike's new AI Transformation Series. So episode 226, we asked these two questions. OpenAI's models escaped a test sandbox and hacked a real company. How does that affect your trust in AI companies? This one's going to be relevant again today because we had more hacking by AI models.
Okay, so 38 percent somewhat lowers it, so the trust level is lower. Thirty-six percent, no change. They expected it to probably do these things, I guess. Seventeen percent significantly lowers the trust. So that's interesting if you combine the 38 plus the 17, we've got a decent amount, certainly the majority, and then 10 percent, their transparency actually raises the trust. The second question was, would you support a large AI data center being built in your community? This is way more balanced than I would have expected, Mike.
Thirty-six percent, no, okay, I would have expected that to be 90 percent, but 29 percent, yes, but only with strict conditions, 24 percent, yes, just straight up, they would, and 12 percent, not sure.

**Mike Kaput** (4:23)
It's interesting.

**Paul Roetzer** (4:24)
Really interesting. I would love that. So again, this is an informal poll. This is not like we don't have 500 people responding to this that we could actually project this out. This is dozens of people that respond to these polls. So don't read too much into it. But again, it gives you a sense of where our listeners are falling within that small segment. So fascinating. Okay. So as the week went on last week, Mike and after episode 226 and just the total exhaustion I felt mentally from that episode, I was hoping this week was just going to be super light-hearted, and we're going to have all this wonderful news.