Can Love Be a Fierce Business Force? | Marcus Buckingham - EP 779

**SPEAKER_1** (0:00)
Coming up next on Passion Struck.

**Marcus Buckingham** (0:02)
But when we humans try to vocalize the extreme positive experiences we have in life, the word we use is love, and I kept changing it, frankly, over the years. I kept changing it to something more palatable to the business world, like passion or joy, or or engagement or satisfaction. And those are really good words.
But the actual words people use, they don't use delight, They'll use the word they uses love. So really, for me it was a wake up call to go listen. As a researcher. If people are spontaneously using a word or a set of words, you don't dismiss it or try to change it for them as though they were wrong. You interrogate the word, what do they mean?

**John R. Miles** (0:42)
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Hey, friends, and welcome back to Passion Struck episode seven hundred and seventy nine.
In my last conversation with Greg McEwan, we unpack the gap between what we think we communicated and what another person actually heard, showing us how emotional noise creates a devastating misunderstanding in our daily relationships. Today we're tracing that exact path to its ultimate destination. If I told you that one of the most powerful drivers of performance, innovation, resilience, and engagement was love, many leaders would probably roll their eyes. Love feels far too soft for the business world. It sounds too emotional, too abstract, and completely impossible to measure. Think about the best boss you've ever had. Chances are it they didn't inspire your best work because they manage you perfectly. They inspired it because they made you feel seen. Research suggests that feeling is far more than a nice to have. It may be one of the most powerful drivers of human performance. The data shows that people do their best work when they feel value, trusted, and safe enough to bring more of themselves to what they do. In other words, the most effective leaders don't simply manage performance. They designed the exact conditions for people to thrive. My guest today spent years analyzing the hard data behind this exact human experience. Marcus Buckingham is a global researcher, a pioneer of the Strengths movement, and the legendary author of.

**SPEAKER_1** (2:54)
First Break All the Rules.

**John R. Miles** (2:56)
Over nearly three decades, his work and tools have helped tens of millions of.

**SPEAKER_1** (3:00)
People discover how to thrive in their careers.

**John R. Miles** (3:03)
In his latest research, Marcus has confronted the data to show why love is actually a fierce, strategic force that directly dictates the long term value and vitality of any organization.
By spending time with us today, you'll learn why certain experiences stay with us while others disappear almost immediately, and why the experiences we remember most often shape our behavior for years. We'll talk about why typical corporate metrics completely miss the mark, and we map out the five specific human feelings that shape whether people thrive or completely shut down at work, control, harmony, significance, warmth, and growth.

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I am absolutely thrilled today to welcome Marcus Buckingham, one of my favorite authors. Marcus, so great to see you.

**Marcus Buckingham** (4:30)
Thanks for having me well.

**John R. Miles** (4:32)
Twenty five years ago you helped redefine management with First Break All the Rules, a book that so many of us who were in the business world read and applied, showcasing that performance wasn't built through conformity, but it was built through human uniqueness. That's how I interpreted it. But since then, it's amazing. Nearly thirty million people have taken the strengths tools that you helped create, and you've helped study what makes people thrive in these environments. So where I wanted to start today is, after all the research you've done, and you do really extensive research, you arrived at the startling conclusion that the most powerful force in business is love.