**Gianfranco Palumbo** (0:07)
And have you tried anything new in food?
**Jianfa** (0:10)
No, I think so, nothing that comes to mind.
**Gianfranco Palumbo** (0:14)
Nothing, but really, I lately started, the last two days or three days, I started making burgers. Damn, I have missed burgers. Burgers are awesome thing, if you do them right, of course. So I tried to find this high quality minced beef. That's very important. Yes, then you just marinate it with spices. And if you have the blender, like I do, you just blend some onions to mix with the meat and spices. It will be one homogenous thing.
Yeah, and then I put it on the slowest possible temperature heat. And I use, of course, cast iron pan, which is like the best to cook meat, any kind of meat. So cast iron makes a huge difference in the end result. And yeah, and then the buns, I just put this, I buy this very high fat percentage butter. There is no Kerrygold here, but there's like local, which is very nice. I tried different types of butters. This one seems like really, really good. It tastes like, I don't know how to explain it, but it tastes like really fat. I don't know. Greasy. I buy the whole grain black bun for it. And yeah, just put some butter in it, fry it a bit.
And well, make it crisp. I don't fry it. I make the bun from crisp from one side. And then some nice chili sauce on there. Some, I don't know. Then I just put like different veggies. So cherry tomatoes, black, red bell peppers, onion, the cucumber, whatever. It doesn't really matter. I just put a lot of cabbage. Yeah. So it becomes, yeah, you were right, that it's better to make the burgers wide, not tall, because it's really hard to eat.
**Jianfa** (2:33)
And I saw, I saw something on somewhere on Twitter. I think now Twitter, because I use it a lot more, it's recommending me more things that I like. So it's getting better, the algorithm.
**Gianfranco Palumbo** (2:44)
So yeah, it's hard to eat.
Hard to eat a lot of it. And also like after two burgers, you basically feel bad because you ate too much. But Twitter is interesting. Yeah.
**Jianfa** (3:03)
I was just saying, I actually had a burger yesterday as well. They call it a burger from a blonde cow and something else was in the menu. So I was like, yeah, I'll have the white cow's meat. And I was like, sorry, I mean blonde.
**Gianfranco Palumbo** (3:22)
What the hell?
**Jianfa** (3:23)
That was something on the menu. It just seemed like normal meat to me. That was the fancy title. Even though it was pretty cheap, it was like nine euro, which is pretty good for a burger. I was used to, in Dublin, you can't find a burger for less than 14 euro. And it was just meat, buns, and chips all frozen.
**Gianfranco Palumbo** (3:49)
But this is Dublin. Dublin is like, everything is super expensive. Yeah. But I'm still surprised at the price of 10 in Spain. I thought that Spain is cheaper. Like, more cheap than...
**Jianfa** (4:03)
Yeah. Well, it was not like the most cheap place we went to. It's not McDonald's or something.
**Gianfranco Palumbo** (4:12)
Actually, yeah, the burger here would be about six or seven. So it's not that far off. I'm here in the middle of the war, and the economy is barely ending, and still the prices are this.
**Jianfa** (4:26)
How is the... What's the currency called? Sorry.
**SPEAKER_1** (4:35)
Hryvnia.
**Jianfa** (4:37)
Versus dollar. Has it moved much?
**Gianfranco Palumbo** (4:40)
Same. No. Well, it did last summer. It went to like 40 to 1 But the state, although the official is 36 to 1 So it's kind of weird. But on the streets, it's 40 to 1 So I don't know how it works.
**Jianfa** (4:56)
Oh, yeah.
**Gianfranco Palumbo** (4:57)
It jumped.
**Jianfa** (4:58)
It jumped, and now it's 36, almost stable.
**Gianfranco Palumbo** (5:03)
Interesting. Yeah, it's weird. Well, you know, it's artificial. So because basically the economy lives because we get subsidies from the European Union and the US. Otherwise, I don't even know what would it be. So it's...
**Jianfa** (5:18)
Yeah.
**Gianfranco Palumbo** (5:19)
But yeah, I'm surprised that although what I don't understand, why do they have the different rates for the official? And the street one, let's call it the street one. Because whenever I exchange from paypal to grimness, like it's basically, I get less grimness per dollar.
**Jianfa** (5:49)
I would say the official is from the central bank, and then the street is just what the market offers, and what's it called, offer and demand.
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