Bringing Back The Bitcoin Bull Market | Cory Klippsten

**Cory Klippsten** (0:02)
Inevitably, Bitcoin will go up again. Only broad participation against lots of people who truly understand Bitcoin can keep it there. The people that just get easy access to Bitcoin through institutionalization and paper Bitcoin and price exposure. By definition, because it was easy to buy, they have paper hands, you know? The institutions and the retail that buy ETFs are easy to shake out of their positions. All the treasury stock type people are easy to shake out of their positions. People that truly understand real on-chain Bitcoin are much harder to shake out of their positions. Nothing can beat Bitcoin at this point. The rest of this century is basically just a race between dollar slash treasuries and gold and Bitcoin. And Bitcoin is the fastest horse in the race. And it's the one that's technologically and just kind of logically superior to the other two. And it's just a matter of getting people to wake up to that. It's okay to like pick up the baton and try to achieve something, you know? Like define your mission, plan your mission, get on the damn mission, stay on the mission and be inspired.

**Danny Knowles** (1:00)
Cory Klippsten, good to see you, mate. You're coming live from London.

**Cory Klippsten** (1:03)
I am. I am in London for a little bit and bouncing around, planning to meet some Bitcoiners over on this side of the drink, working on some early potential expansion plans into some new markets and enjoying being able to do a lot of the morning shows that I really can't do from the West Coast with call times at 1 a.m. and 6 a.m. having young children. So really packing in the media appearances this summer and really trying to get the word out and bring some real signal and some positivity.
I don't want to say back to the space because I don't think it ever really leaves. I just think in bear markets, it gets drowned out by a lot of FUD and a lot of negativity and a lot of infighting. And it just feels like the exact right time to just be a lot louder coming through with Bitcoin education, really pushing adoption, really trying to create the circumstances through which individual humans can understand the power of real on-chain Bitcoin in self-custody. After a lot of years of crypto madness and Bitcoin stonks and ETFs and TradFi, and just abdicating responsibility for reasons to get into Bitcoin to signals from authority, which I think is kind of what's gotten people into Bitcoin for the last four or five years has mostly just been like on the recommendation of somebody else that's successful in TradFi. And I'd like to kill that completely and bring back people educating other people and getting them into Bitcoin. So I think what you continue to do is extremely important. And I'm on the mission as always, and have myself a little extra time more than I have in recent years. And so back on the war path, man.

**Danny Knowles** (3:02)
Let's go. I want to get into all the efforts you guys are making at Swann to bring this back. But I have to ask you Cory, is the death of London exaggerated?

**Cory Klippsten** (3:12)
I mean, look, it's been through tougher times. They've had plague here. You know, I'm explaining to my wife the history of World War II and, you know, why?

**Danny Knowles** (3:20)
The Blitz.

**Cory Klippsten** (3:21)
Yeah, the Blitz. And, you know, why are some buildings new and some not? And I'm like, well, that's pretty much a map of strikes from the Luftwaffe, baby. Sorry.
You know, like, why are there such well-built out basements in so many of these places? And I'm like, well, it's kind of, some people actually did some reno when they were living down there for a year or two. You know, it's, it's, it is unbelievable. I think the whole city in some ways, I haven't verbalized this before, but I was thinking about it this morning. It's a lot like kids that get to live at, like, their parents' villa or their grandparents' villa or something like that. There's so much capital that's accumulated here over the years. Like, if you started out with the UK's economy today, you obviously couldn't get here. You know, it probably wouldn't look as nice as Santa Monica, which isn't very nice, you know, but because you have so many awesome buildings from so long ago, like Istanbul, you know, there's so much amazing architecture there. And a lot of it, frankly, came before the Ottomans even came to power, let alone all the cool shit they built, you know, long before it became a secular republic. And so you just get to walk around in certain cities around the world and benefit from the many, many generations before you. So I think that's pretty cool.