A Self-Help Guide to Your 20s with #1 Psychologist | Every Woman Needs This

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**Jemma Sbeg** (0:30)
When am I going to find my person? Am I always going to feel this uncertain about my life? How do I know what's going to make me happy? I think that is the biggest determinant of happiness is your ****.

**Dr Faye Bate** (0:40)
Jemma Sbeg started her podcast with the mission to give young women the science behind what they were going through. Why your 20s are so hard, being single, and the paradox of choice.

**Jemma Sbeg** (0:50)
If you are an eldest daughter, you were raised differently than any other member in the family. You were essentially raised to be the third parent. A lot of people who are ambitious really are just motivated by s***.
I do hear from a lot of people who are like, I want the meat cute. The meat cute doesn't matter if the end of the story is terrible.

**Dr Faye Bate** (1:06)
The dopamine from swiping, that is dangerous. They are attractive or they're not attractive.

**Jemma Sbeg** (1:11)
You right now, you will have something in your mind that you cannot stop thinking about. That's your purpose, that's your path.

**Dr Faye Bate** (1:16)
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**Jemma Sbeg** (1:31)
I'm Jemma Sbeg. This is Her Discussions podcast.

**Dr Faye Bate** (1:34)
Jemma, we are going to talk all about having a quarter-life crisis, the psychology of your 20s, and having a book and a podcast on Netflix because that is unreal. But first, I would love to deep dive into why you started doing what you're doing and where does heartbreak come into that?
Let's start deep.

**Jemma Sbeg** (1:56)
Oh my goodness. Yeah, we'll start at the very beginning point. Firstly, thanks for having me on. I'm so excited. And the studio, I feel like the listeners need to know, slash viewers need to know how cozy it is in here.
It's like a lounge room. It's like the best. Anyways, how did the podcast start? So I started the Psychology of your 20s when I was literally 21
And I had been in this serious long-term relationship with this guy, as serious and long-term as a relationship like from 19 to 21 can be. But like, you know, your first boyfriend, and we broke up and it was devastating. And he got a new girlfriend like very, very quickly afterwards. And there was this whole situation where I was going around being like, we're getting back together. Like, haven't you heard? Haven't you heard the news to all my friends? Like, we're getting back together. And one of my best friends now had to awkwardly be like, I don't think you don't know. Like, he's dating somebody else. And I was obviously like at 21, you just feel everything so intensely. It's almost, it's like a bit of a blessing really, but also a curse. And I kind of fled to the mountains of Queensland and hung out with my grandma. And I'd had this idea for a podcast like going around and around and around in my head for a little while, like the Psychology of your 20s. Like, why don't we take academia and explain everyday experiences? And I was like, well, let's do it now. Like, why not? I just, you know, when you're just so heartbroken that like you just, in grief is when like the stuff is like the clearest and you can just like make sense of what you really want to do. And there's all this motivation to do things and to better yourself and all this like creativity. And that's really where the Psychology of your 20s was born from.

**Dr Faye Bate** (3:46)
Gorgeous. I love that.
I'm from what's from the Phoenix Rises, the Ashes or whatever that. And what have been the top lessons that you have learned personally through your process?

**Jemma Sbeg** (3:58)
Oh, of like the podcast?

**Dr Faye Bate** (3:59)