A Numbers Game | August 13, 2026 | Hour 1

**Kelley Bydlon** (0:01)
The Numbers told the story, they always do.

**Gill Alexander** (0:03)
It's one of those idiots who believe in analytics.

**Jonathan Von Tobel** (0:05)
This is a Numbers Game with Gill Alexander on VSiN.

**Gill Alexander** (0:09)
Good Thursday morning to you. It is a Numbers Game at VSiN, esportsbettynetworkvisa.com game plus I Heart Radio, YouTube TV, SiriusXM Channel 158 It's Gill Alexander. That right there is Kelley Bydlon.

**Kelley Bydlon** (0:22)
Yes, sir.

**Gill Alexander** (0:23)
What's happening?

**Kelley Bydlon** (0:23)
Not much, how we doing?

**Gill Alexander** (0:24)
You got week one preseason fever?

**Kelley Bydlon** (0:26)
I do, man. I got like four bets going tonight.

**Jonathan Von Tobel** (0:29)
Let's go.

**Gill Alexander** (0:29)
Do you really think so?

**Kelley Bydlon** (0:30)
I think so.

**Jonathan Von Tobel** (0:31)
Wow.

**Gill Alexander** (0:32)
That's awesome.

**Kelley Bydlon** (0:33)
One, two, I have three tonight, four in total for week one, three go to three.

**Gill Alexander** (0:38)
Have to be today. All right. Well, we'll talk about that. We'll go through for their six games today in the National Football League preseason week. Number one, we'll go through the the basics of who's playing, who's not in terms of starters, how long they're expected to play, that kind of thing. Again, once they went from four weeks to three weeks, the difference in how teams decided to approach this became that much more vast because usually, again, when it was a four-week arc, we're playing everybody week three, we're sitting everybody week four, it was kind of a scriptish kind of thing. Now, it's every team figuring a different way to do this.

**Kelley Bydlon** (1:09)
You know what though, doesn't it feel like it should be more obvious now? You used to have that like it was always week three, some would start a little early in week two, right? Now, it just feels like everybody week two. It should be starters, week two, play half and then get out of here. Don't see them again.

**Gill Alexander** (1:25)
We'll talk about all six today.
We'll figure out how everybody's thinking it through. JVT is going to join us on the show this hour. Jonathan Von Tobel talked college football. He's got pics from the college football betting guide that he will share with us and season longs. Looking forward to that. National Football League with him, Major League Baseball with him, everything we can catch up with JVT. Co-host of Money Moves here on the network of Stormy.

**Kelley Bydlon** (1:48)
Feels like it's been a minute since we've had him on.

**Gill Alexander** (1:50)
It has been a minute and a half, I believe. I have on my watch, been a minute and a half. And then another co-host of another great show here on the network, Prop Points co-host, Jeff Erickson. Talk Major League Baseball and National Football League with us a little later.
One of my low-key favorite guests.
We don't often praise Jeff as much as we should praise Jeff. Always solid. Looking forward to talking to him. The co-founder of Roto Wire. How about that for Flex?

**Kelley Bydlon** (2:20)
Yeah, man, which has been an institution in the fantasy and betting world now for how many years? Decades?

**Gill Alexander** (2:26)
Institution. He is an institution. And then, of course, it is Thursday. You know what that means? Unscripted with the Cragman Bill Crackenburger. Usually it's Zach and Crack, but Zach is on a trip.

**Kelley Bydlon** (2:35)
He's off gallivanting around Europe.

**Gill Alexander** (2:37)
I believe gallivanting is the correct word. But Bill Crackenburger later unscripted.

**Kelley Bydlon** (2:42)
And brought the kid. I did talk with Zach yesterday.

**Gill Alexander** (2:45)
Oh, I thought you said Bill. All of a sudden I was like, Crack brought the kid? What are you talking about? Oh, Zach did.

**Kelley Bydlon** (2:50)
Yeah. Yeah.

**Gill Alexander** (2:51)
Yeah, they have a little. I mean, they have a little child. They're not going to leave the child behind.

**Kelley Bydlon** (2:54)
I thought maybe parents or grandparents. Yeah, I thought it was no, no, take it. Maybe they don't want to take it with them.

**Gill Alexander** (3:00)
Yeah. Crack and I have a lot to talk about. We're going to. By the way, Derek Stevens made an appearance on Cracks podcast. He did, which I actually listened to some day up, which Bill and John Orlando did do from right here at Circa at the sports book here behind us. And Derek, by the way, Derek was kind enough to spend 15 minutes solo with me yesterday in the parking lot talking about stuff.
Just tremendous guy, super smart. But Derek went on Twitter yesterday and said some stuff. People didn't like. I have opinions on all kinds of things.