#97 with Andrew Wilkinson - The Warren Buffett of the Internet Returns

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What up, everyone? Today we have Andrew Wilkinson. He's been on here a bunch of times.
We don't need to do a proper intro other than Andrew started this thing called MetaLab, which he has spun into Tiny, which owns like 10 or 20 He just owns a lot of stuff, and he's really interesting.
I am moving tomorrow out of San Francisco. We've talked about this a lot.
I'm moving out of here, Shaan. I'm gonna go to Park City, and then I'm gonna go to St. Louis and then New York, and then I don't know. Along the way, I'll be doing this, obviously, and I'm gonna take a little bit of an academic, nerdy approach to it, where I'm gonna, I'm reading these books, and I'm gonna outline what is the most desirable, what are the attributes that make a happy neighborhood? And I'm on a mission to find that neighborhood.

**Shaan** (1:25)
There's some movie, I don't know if you've seen it, there's some documentary about the happiest city or the happiest society. It's in Sweden or something like that. It's just very communal living. Do you guys know what I'm talking about?
I'm only remembering-

**Andrew Wilkinson** (1:38)
Isn't St. Louis a bit so or whatever in California, the happiest place in the United States? I think it's sunny like-

**Sam** (1:44)
San Luis Obispo.

**Andrew Wilkinson** (1:45)
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Have you checked that out?

**Sam** (1:49)
I have, but here's why I don't think, so I actually think that people overestimate how much weather impacts them. I'm almost positive that the number one attribute is your tribe.

**Shaan** (1:58)
Yeah.

**Sam** (1:58)
So can you have a tribe of people?

**Shaan** (1:59)
I think it is your tribe, but I think weather's like two or three. Like I think it's way up there.

**Andrew Wilkinson** (2:06)
Cause just spending time in nature.
Where I live in Canada, it's like you're always surrounded by nature. It's not freezing cold, it gets shitty and rainy probably like half the year. And then it's beautiful and sunny the other half, never too hot, never too cold. And I find just having the contrast. I don't know if I'd be happy if it was always sunny. I talk to people in LA, I feel like they just don't appreciate it.

**Sam** (2:28)
Yeah, I've grown to actually hate San Francisco weather. I want really hot or really cold.
But Andrew, you have family up there, right?

**Andrew Wilkinson** (2:37)
Yeah, yeah, I grew up here and I hated it. I thought it was the lamest place in the world. And then I started traveling and I realized like, holy crap, this is the most beautiful place in the world.
And it's awesome. And it's exactly what you said. I have a tribe.
I have all these amazing entrepreneurs I meet up with every single week. I have great friends, I've got family here. And now I wouldn't go anywhere else. But before I had the tribe, I hated it.

**Sam** (3:01)
And Sean has a tribe in San Francisco. So he has recently...

**Shaan** (3:04)
Because I lived in so many different places. I think I've lived in like 10 different countries or something like that.
And people are always like, oh, which ones you like the best? I'm like, well, literally my whole experience was just a function of like who I hung out with. And I've had great friends and my family was around. I had an amazing time. It didn't even matter what the city was.
And if they weren't there, again, it didn't matter how sunny and how many beaches there were either.

**Andrew Wilkinson** (3:27)
It's like I used to work in a cell phone store and it's a shitty job. It's an objectively shitty job. Like literally on Welfare Wednesday, you're dealing with all these like rude people who are addicted to drugs and it's super stressful. But I worked with all these awesome people and we all had fun and hung out and I loved it, right? And so I think it's the exact same thing. It doesn't really matter what the settings are. People are awesome.

**Sam** (3:49)
Andrew, have you heard of this thing called Hello? I think their URL is Hello Landing and their URL is Hello Landing. It's called Landing. And what they're doing is you pay an annual fee of $100 and you get access to a ton of furnished apartments throughout 20 major cities in the US and you can stay there for a monthly fee as opposed to 12 month terms.