#737: Preparing For Post Quantum Era with Pubkey artwork

#737: Preparing For Post Quantum Era with Pubkey

TFTC: A Bitcoin Podcast

April 20, 2026

Marty sits down with Thomas Pacchia, Christian Langalis, and Ryan Gentry to discuss institutional fears regarding quantum computing, the degradation of professional and college sports, the Joe McCann crypto saga, and the longhouse theory of political organization. Ryan on X: https://x.
Speakers: Marty Bent, Thomas Pacchia, Ryan Gentry
**Marty Bent** (0:07)
You've had a dynamic where money's become freer than free.
When you talk about a Fed just gone nuts, all the central banks going nuts. So it's all acting like safe haven.

**SPEAKER_2** (0:18)
I believe that in a world where central bankers are tripping over themselves to devalue their currency, Bitcoin wins. In the world of fiat currencies, Bitcoin is the victor.

**Marty Bent** (0:29)
I mean, that's part of the bold case for Bitcoin.

**SPEAKER_2** (0:31)
If you're not paying attention, you probably should be.

**Thomas Pacchia** (0:36)
I think college football is still fine. College basketball decimated. College football, as long as you are the richest athletic department in the country, is still cool, which happens to be my preferred university, University of Texas.
High school football will never die, as long as you're in Texas.

**Ryan Gentry** (0:54)
So that's fine. But the NIL, right? Yeah. This is atrocious in the transfer window. It's so fucking funny that the president is talking about this. Make them a minor league.

**Thomas Pacchia** (1:05)
I think that it's going to like a farm system type thing.
We were talking about that earlier, actually, about how smaller schools, you have to adjust and find a niche. It's like, hey, our role is going to be, we're going to take the backups from Penn State that didn't get any playing time. We were talking about wrestling in particular. They're going to come here. They're going to have a great year. We're going to pay them 10 grand. And then they're going to make half a million bucks somewhere else that's going to make our program like the program that you got to come to. It's totally different from what college sports have always been, but I think we're going to figure it out.

**Ryan Gentry** (1:36)
I think this is kind of problematic for Bitcoiners in particular because you want Bitcoin to be at least somewhat relatable to like norm core and like sports ball is a big part of that. But like when you look into the way tax dollars are deployed to support all college, but also like new stadiums and like the nonprofit status of the NFL, it's like it's pretty antithetical, I would say to Bitcoiners ethos to be into sports.
It's fucking bad.

**Marty Bent** (2:04)
Why am I good to sports college across?

**Ryan Gentry** (2:07)
College across, yeah.

**Marty Bent** (2:08)
Hasn't been determined by the NIH.

**Ryan Gentry** (2:10)
Listen, Libby Donnell, do be having benefits.

**Marty Bent** (2:15)
Her husband is crushing it.

**Ryan Gentry** (2:17)
He's really good. Yeah.

**Thomas Pacchia** (2:18)
Insane.

**Ryan Gentry** (2:19)
That's what the one for a sport like I do, so I actually, Billy's had a special place in my heart, was that the 2008 World Series came in the water.

**Marty Bent** (2:27)
Coincidentally enough, the next day, the parade is when Satoshi launched the white paper.

**Ryan Gentry** (2:31)
No shit.

**Thomas Pacchia** (2:32)
Yeah.

**Marty Bent** (2:32)
So I was running around Broad Street as a 17-year-old, not knowing that Satoshi was going to change my life.

**Thomas Pacchia** (2:37)
Wow.

**Ryan Gentry** (2:38)
I used to be horribly, horribly addicted to baseball. I love baseball. Yankees completely broke my heart with the new stadium. It's a very complicated relationship now. Like they absolutely just decimated my favorite thing.

**Marty Bent** (2:51)
Citizens Bank Park, one of the best stadiums in all sports.

**Ryan Gentry** (2:53)
Now, Pirates.

**Marty Bent** (2:55)
It's a great one too.

**Ryan Gentry** (2:56)
Pirates Stadium is amazing.

**Thomas Pacchia** (2:57)
Does that make it more or less likely that Satoshi was, is a Philadelphian, and I mean, freedom, obviously.

**Marty Bent** (3:04)
Yeah, freedom.

**Thomas Pacchia** (3:05)
But like, would he have been too hung over to launch Bitcoin?

**Ryan Gentry** (3:07)
He was talking about Trank a lot.

**Marty Bent** (3:09)
Maybe, maybe, yeah.
But go back to the bitcointalk.org early days, there was Trank brought up quite a bit. Kidding. We're working on that, Thomas. We're working on that.

**Thomas Pacchia** (3:21)
Yeah, I, similarly, growing up, diehard rangers fan, watch, you know, like 60 plus games a year with my dad.

**Ryan Gentry** (3:29)
Is this Texas or New York?

**Thomas Pacchia** (3:31)
Texas Rangers.

**Ryan Gentry** (3:31)
Okay. The lesser rangers.

**Thomas Pacchia** (3:33)
Yes. Broke my heart in 2011, 2012, those back to back World Series that they lost in Game 7

**Ryan Gentry** (3:39)
Yeah.

**Thomas Pacchia** (3:41)
And I just haven't been able to.

**Marty Bent** (3:42)
CJ on the team back then?

**Thomas Pacchia** (3:44)
I think he was a couple years before then. But yeah, that was.

**Ryan Gentry** (3:47)
He was angels?

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