#723 - Dana White & Tony Hinchcliffe

**SPEAKER_2** (0:02)
The Joe Rogan Experience.

**Joe Rogan** (0:08)
Boom, all right, here we are. We're in a plane right now, flying, where, what, ocean, Pacific, flying above the Pacific. I'm with Dana White. What's up?
Tony Hinchcliffe.

**Tony Hinchcliffe** (0:23)
Hello, everybody.

**Joe Rogan** (0:24)
And we're, basically we're in shock.
Right now, no one, no one here should be allowed to vote.
We shouldn't be allowed to drive.
We should all, we should all be forced to settle in, don't make any rash decisions. Like, right now we're dealing with, this is a crazy time. We just got, we just got done watching. It might not be the biggest upset in combat sports history. I know I said it after the fight. I think Buster Douglas might have been a bigger upset because Buster Douglas was kind of a fuck up, he was kind of a guy who didn't really train hard, didn't take care of himself. And he was a 42 to one underdog when he knocked out Mike Tyson. Holly Holm was only a 12 to one underdog when she knocked out Ronda. And Holly was, you know, very respected in the combat sports world. Multiple time boxing and world kickboxing champion. But still, on Twitter, when I was hyping this fight up, and I was telling people about this fight, so many people were saying, you're trying to sell us bullshit. You know Holly doesn't have a chance. Freddie Roach said Ronda Rousey's gonna destroy her. It was all these articles saying you're just gonna... So, it was an upset.
But it wasn't just that it was an upset, it was the way she did it. The way she did it, though. She fought the perfect fight. And when she head kicked Ronda, just the icing, the cherry on the cake, good night everybody, and hammer fisted her when she was out, I mean, we're all shocked. I mean shocked.

**Dana White** (1:52)
The whole place was shocked. I mean, there's a reason right now why literally my phone at four o'clock in the morning was going crazy.
Every media outlet on earth, I mean, you name it, Dave Schaller, our PR guy said, pick an outlet, say it, just say something, pull a name out.
They called and they want either Holla or Hollie or Ronda. They want to talk to them. And I was saying earlier to you guys, it's like Patriots looking good this season. They just went nine and oh. They could win another Super Bowl.
The world will not go fucking crazy the way the world went when two, when two badass human beings square off in a combat fight. The world goes fucking crazy, man.

**Joe Rogan** (2:40)
We're not used to women doing that. And if we are used to, there was like a brief moment in the past where Christy Martin got big. Remember the coal miner's daughter and she used to box on TV and she would have these kind of fights. But one of the things about watching women fight was they didn't really knock each other out. They'd sort of beat each other, they would punch each other. But when Holly head kicked Rhonda last night, it was like, it wasn't just that she beat her.
It was just that Rhonda was such a superstar. When such a superstar gets beaten like that, the whole world has to go, what? It's like when Buster Douglas knocked out Mike Tyson. It wasn't that a guy got knocked out. Everybody knows guys can knock guys out. We've seen Mike Tyson knock out 100 guys. It's not that. It was that Mike Tyson got knocked out. What?
What? Like it didn't fit in our paradigm of how the world works. The world works. Rhonda Rousey runs out, grabs girls, throws them on her head, arm bars them or she knees them with her stomach, punches them in the face, takes them out.
To see that happen, the way it happened, to see Holly Holm fight the perfect fight and be so classy, all through the media, everything she did, cool as a cucumber. During the weigh-ins, Rhonda's screaming on her inner face, everything, Holly was stone-faced, never changed her expression. I mean, the whole thing was just...

**Tony Hinchcliffe** (4:01)
It's almost the same feeling, not the same feeling, but almost the same feeling that I got on 9-11 watching those giant trade centers come down. No, I'm serious. When the trade centers got hit by planes, we were like, holy fuck. But when you watched them actually come down, you're like, there's no way something that solid and that stabilized and strong and powerful is coming down right now. And that's how I felt when the leg kick happened. Like I felt like there was a delayed reaction from everybody. Like people were like, oh yeah, she just got head kicked and she went down, but it's not over. It's not really over.