#63 with Andrew Wilkinson - Buying cash-flowing internet companies, starting job boards and building no code projects

**Sam Parr** (0:00)
What's going on, listeners? We get asked all the time different bits of advice on the stuff that Shaan and I talk about, and that's great. And it's actually something that Shaan and I do all the time, which is ask people for different insights, particularly those who are a lot better than us. And one person who we've been heavily inspired by is Jordan Harbinger. I've known Jordan now for eight years now, and I've been listening to him for about that long.
And he's had podcasts for years and in fact, has been in the top 100 for the last 13 years. And he has a new show called the Jordan Harbinger Show.
And what he does is he talks about social engineering, in particular for helping men be more charismatic, which is great. But what I think is even more interesting is that he teaches social engineering to SEALs, to intelligence agencies, to special operations. And it's incredibly fascinating. And we actually have Jordan here for a minute to tell us some of his favorite episodes. In particular, the one that I've listened to recently was How to Ask for Advice. Jordan, what's going on?

**Jordan Harbinger** (0:53)
Hey, thanks for having me on. I really appreciate it. I think the reason I chose the advice topic was because I'm sure you get this too. You get an email from somebody, maybe even somebody who's younger, saying something like, I want you to mentor me, or how do I succeed in my idea, or how do I come up with a good idea? And these are the wrong questions. A lot of people are asking for validation of their idea. They're asking for permission to do something.
You really can't get a lot of value from that. You have to be sure if you're actually asking for advice, you're actually asking for permission, you're just asking for encouragement, or if it's specific, intentional and explicit in detailing what you need.
The other half, of course, is being able to implement that advice and then show the other person how you've implemented their advice in a very specific way. So I decided to write an article and do an entire show about this on episode 321 of the Jordan Harbinger Show because it's been, it's helpful for people looking for advice and it's also helpful for people who get asked for advice in the wrong way all of the time because they can just say, hey, listen to this and then come back to me after you're done.

**Sam Parr** (1:58)
And I get maybe three or four dozen messages a day of people doing this and breaking the rules that you've just mentioned. And I've noticed that when people do it right, it can be career changing. Has any listener came to you and said, thank you for giving this advice, here's what I've done effectively and how it's worked?

**Jordan Harbinger** (2:14)
Oh, it happens all the time and it's great. It's really rewarding for me. Of course, when people write to me and say, my dream is to start a clothing line, any tips? All I can do is say, I don't know really what you want or what you're gonna do.
And then of course, any tip I give them that's not go for your dreams just leaves them feeling angry. So I don't like to even field those questions anymore.

**Sam Parr** (2:35)
That's crazy. I do the same thing. Whenever people ask advice, I just say, just start. If the question isn't specific enough, it's impossible. It's like saying, how do you make art? So I think this is like an incredibly useful podcast. It's something that people need to listen to regardless of where they are in their journey of building whatever they're building. So give this a listen. I mean, it's a great podcast. I actually have, I've paid for a handful of your products. So this isn't just nonsense. I have really been a customer for a while and I appreciate you coming on. And so where should people turn to if they wanna listen to this?

**Jordan Harbinger** (3:07)
Sure, you can find me at jordanharbinger.com, but honestly, the podcast is anywhere you get your podcasts.

**Sam Parr** (3:12)
Well, thanks for coming and this really means a lot to us.

**Jordan Harbinger** (3:15)
Thank you.

**Shaan Puri** (3:27)
What's up everybody, hope everybody's doing good. We're all quarantining, but we're thriving. At least, that's what I tell myself. So I got Sam here, and then we got special guest, probably the most referred to guest on the podcast, even though he's never been a guest yet, but we speak your name all the time. So Andrew Wilkinson's here.