#3486 RHOC S20E04 Part Two: Boxed Whine

**Ben Mandelker** (0:21)
Hello and welcome to Watch What Crappens, a podcast about all that crap on Bravo that we just love to talk about. This is part two of the recap. If you missed part one, go check out your podcast feed. It's right there.

**Ronnie Karam** (0:31)
And without further ado, let's get right back into the recap.

**Ronnie Karam** (0:34)
So let's go to BLK.
Wow, I'm assuming this is not the water. Jen meets Tamra for a drink. And she's like, oh my God, last year, I would have looked into a restaurant and seen Tamra there. And I would have said, oh, nope, not going in there. But you know, it feels like Tamra's growing so much. She's really changing so much. I'm shocked. I mean, this, first she was calling me a stalker, and this year she shows up in one of my exact same professional looks, even with the hair. Have you seen that? The comparison of Tamra in that leopard print dress that she's wearing with her hair up like Ivana Trump? And it's an exact look from Jen.

**Ronnie Karam** (1:10)
It's an exact copy.

**Ronnie Karam** (1:13)
So Tamra's like, I'm so excited to get to know Karamela. Did her family really invent Karamels?

**Ronnie Karam** (1:21)
That has nothing to do with it. But she has a lot of layers. And she's like a real girl's girl.

**Ronnie Karam** (1:27)
Yeah, but she know that Vicky is like, what did Vicky say?

**Ronnie Karam** (1:30)
What did Vicky call her?

**Ben Mandelker** (1:32)
And then we have a flashback of Vicky saying, I mean, who names their daughter Karamela at this age? I somehow missed that comment from Vicky.

**Ronnie Karam** (1:42)
Jen hates the name Karamela. She just like, she hates your name to start.

**Ronnie Karam** (1:47)
And that's not a developer. She used the wrong word. Red flags, red flags, it's not a developer.

**Ronnie Karam** (1:52)
So Jen's like, well, drink up. You know you're about to tell her.

**Ronnie Karam** (1:55)
So go ahead and just drink that. Cheers to that.

**Ben Mandelker** (2:00)
So Karamela's there. She's like, hello. She's like, so I went with Shannon and Emily to this cowgirl workout. It's like a sex workout. It got really out of control. And we see flashbacks of like, Karamela sitting on Shannon and like going back and forth, you know, wacky times.

**Ronnie Karam** (2:16)
And Tamra's like, Oh, and I thought I've heard of baby fitness.

**Ronnie Karam** (2:21)
Yeah, so I hadn't seen Emily since her birthday party and that like whole gift situation.

**Ronnie Karam** (2:26)
Oh yeah, I heard about that. Yeah, I heard about it.

**Ronnie Karam** (2:30)
Yeah, she was like, thank you. And then we see a flashback. So Emily's not even going to wait for other people to be messy for her. She just jumps right in. She's like, okay, Gina didn't take care of this quickly enough. So she goes, thank you so much for the bag. That was really generous. And I thought it was beautiful. But I will tell you, Gina's been very vocal about it. Oh, Gina really hates you now because she gave you that bag.

**Ronnie Karam** (2:52)
You should go attack Gina about it.

**Ronnie Karam** (2:55)
What the fuck?

**Ben Mandelker** (2:56)
This is such a nasty move. She's, if we are to believe everything that we see on the screen, she tells Gina about this at this TikTok moment. And Gina's like, oh, my God, that's like really weird. That's crazy. And then Emily goes and tells Carmela that Gina's been very vocal about it. When, yes, Gina was like, ew, that's gross. And we thought it was like so annoying that Gina's now going to try to start to have a fight about it. But also, like, you know, Emily going and immediately throwing Gina under the bus is like, is wild. And it also kind of reeks of the sort of feels like they kind of planned it in a way, almost like, oh, my God, I'll get mad.

**Ronnie Karam** (3:30)
But then you throw me under the bus and we'll see what happens.

**Ronnie Karam** (3:34)
It's like, let's get Carmela.

**Ronnie Karam** (3:36)
Nobody's doing this quickly enough.

**Ronnie Karam** (3:37)
Let's jump on her. You do it, Gina. So, Gina's like, I need to know what was the motive?

**Ronnie Karam** (3:45)
What was like the motive of giving someone up hers?

**Ronnie Karam** (3:48)
That's great.

**Ronnie Karam** (3:48)
Like, what's going on in this woman's mind?

**Ben Mandelker** (3:51)
And Carmela, we go back to present and Carmela's like, to accuse me of having an ulterior motive, that's gross.