#3485 RHOC S20E04 Part One: Boxed Whine

**Ben Mandelker** (0:21)
Well, hello and welcome to Watch What Crappens, a podcast about all that crap on Bravo that we just love to talk about. I'm Ben Mandelker, and joining me today here on this Fabulous Friday, by the way, Fab Fridays, it's Ronnie Karam. Hi Ronnie, how's it going? The most fabulous Friday of them all. It's Ronnie.

**Ronnie Karam** (0:39)
Yeah, it's a pretty fabulous Friday, no complaints from me.

**Ben Mandelker** (0:43)
Good.
Yet. We haven't started recapping, just, you know, so give it a few minutes.

**Ronnie Karam** (0:48)
Well, that doesn't count. In real life, no complaints.

**Ben Mandelker** (0:51)
Okay, that's great, except for that coyote. I'm just going to remind you of all the things you have to complain about.
Yes, you had a bobcat last night, right?

**Ronnie Karam** (0:59)
Yeah, but the bobcat doesn't bug me because it hasn't attacked bulls, you know, but those coyotes, it's now a family of five coyotes back there. But we're still trucking over here.

**Ben Mandelker** (1:10)
Bobcat better get to work, okay?

**Ronnie Karam** (1:12)
Hell yeah, bobcat.

**Ben Mandelker** (1:14)
My new theory is that there's a warren of rabbits under your house now, and so it's attracting all the coyotes, and then the coyotes are attracting a bobcat, and next, a bear.

**Ronnie Karam** (1:24)
Oh, you know what, at this point, I've calmed down a little bit. I'm just out there with them every day. It's a little coyote vest, some mace, a noisemaker.
It's great. I'm just used to it now. You know wildlife, what are you gonna do? I think they're all very cute animals.

**Ben Mandelker** (1:40)
Yeah, I know. Thank God they're cute.
So you know what else is cute? Us, because we're gonna be doing Amazon Live on Monday at, that's at 130 West Coast, 430 East Coast. So come join us there. We like to talk about the cool things we've found.
And other than that, we got our Patreon, patreon.com/watch what crappens. You guys know the drill. Video, newsletter, ad-free listening, all the good stuff. Bonus episode, we broke down the Ronnie trailer this week. So that was really fun. It is time to talk about episode four. We're already in that four episodes into season 20 It's a little bit of a slow start for this milestone season. This is the week where everyone is starting to basically grumble on the internet and say, what's going on with Orange County? Like, is this really the jewel, the crown jewel season? 20 seasons in and this is what we've got? To which I say, why are you surprised? The moment they said that Emily and Gina would be back, I was like, it's gonna be a dud. And honestly, I was excited for Vicky, you know, in the sense that I love a nostalgia play. But in all reality, Vicky's last few seasons on the show, she was not very interesting. So, you know, the odds are stacked against it.

**Ronnie Karam** (2:58)
Extremely problematic.

**Ben Mandelker** (3:00)
And there's that. However, I actually have, you know, I love Orange County and I'm still entertained by it, but I have to agree, this season is plodding along and I'm hoping that it comes to life, a la Beverly Hills did last season.
What do you think?

**Ronnie Karam** (3:17)
Well, I have to say, you know, as much as we grumble about Emily and Gina, Emily made me laugh the most in this episode when they were doing the box game. When they did the box game.

**SPEAKER_3** (3:26)
Really?

**Ronnie Karam** (3:27)
And she's like, Tamra didn't even try to disguise what she was trying to say to Heather.

**SPEAKER_3** (3:31)
I mean, just write down like, fuck you Heather.

**Ronnie Karam** (3:35)
I cracked up at that. That was funny. And then I laughed at myself for laughing at Gina. It's like, whoa, how often does that happen?

**Ben Mandelker** (3:45)
I just, you know, when all else fails, I just find things about Heather to laugh about. And it was during this box game at one point, Jen said something that annoyed Heather so much. And she did this thing where she jutted out her lower jaw, which is another one of her ticks. When she's really mad, she's like, I am going to show you more of my jaw than you thought you could see. She juts it out. And she goes like this, just does a slow like turn.
It's like she's possessed by Zool. But she's like, I love that.

**Ronnie Karam** (4:12)
Like she's going to stab you with her, with her little jaw. And this was a really good episode for my turn.

**SPEAKER_3** (4:20)