#316 Brian Keating - Brian Keating - The First Object Ever Found From Another Solar System artwork

#316 Brian Keating - Brian Keating - The First Object Ever Found From Another Solar System

The Shawn Ryan Show

June 25, 2026

Brian Keating is the Chancellor’s Distinguished Professor of Physics in the Department of Physics at the University of California, San Diego, and the principal investigator of the Simons Observatory.
Speakers: Shawn Ryan, Brian Keating
**Shawn Ryan** (0:01)
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**Brian Keating** (0:31)
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**Brian Keating** (0:49)
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**Brian Keating** (1:01)
Brian Keating, welcome to the show, man.

**SPEAKER_3** (1:04)
It's a great pleasure to be here, Shawn. It's been a while, I've been hoping to come on.

**Brian Keating** (1:07)
A couple years in the making, right? I don't know. But yeah, we were talking out there, I think I've been tracking you for like two or three years, and you finally made it.

**SPEAKER_3** (1:17)
Yeah, it's kind of scary to hear that Shawn Ryan's been tracking you, but I'll take that, my friend.

**Brian Keating** (1:23)
Oh man, but yeah, lots of shit going on right now.
Lot of stuff going on right now. What do you think about all this alien stuff?

**SPEAKER_3** (1:32)
You know, it's either the most exciting time to be alive or it's going to be the most depressing time to be alive. You know, it's like, imagine you keep asking a girl out, she'll say, yeah, soon, soon, I'll disclose my intentions to you. And you know, you're just kind of waiting in the wings, and you keep hearing things are going to happen, it's going to come out, finally we're going to know the truth.
And the whole community is thinking about things and is excited about things. And then, I'm sorry to say, I'm just been completely underwhelmed. This last release by President Trump and Department of War, Pete Hegso, I tore through that like a kid on Christmas morning, or as soon as it came out.

**Brian Keating** (2:11)
What did you find?

**SPEAKER_3** (2:13)
I found, you know, really, it's a nice round number. I found like zero. I found zero that really interested me. And worse than that, I found things that were, you know, your background, you're used to dealing with kind of like Psiops and a good friend, my friend, Chad Hosh, he was in the Psiops. He was in the US. Army, served in the Army. You know, they have exposure to things, right? They're going to prime you for certain things. I call these Psiops, S-C-I-ops, because it sounds so outlandish, so outrageous. It titillates the mind, especially if you're a nerd like me. I want to know about extradimensional beings. I want to know about non-humanoid biologics.
All I get to hear from people I respect, some people I've talked to, I've got the square root of your podcast, my size, but I talk to a lot of the same people you've had the opportunity and honor to talk to. It's always comes down to like, trust me, bro, or I heard, or somebody said this and I can't say that. In the military, I completely understand it. I understand. You've seen things, you've done things, you're not going to be able to talk about things. You're a scientist and you go on a show, like my friend, you know, Stephen Bartlett's show, and you get 10 million views in one night. You say, well, I heard from somebody who heard from somebody, and you're a physicist, like this, you know, people have come on recently on his show.
It frustrates me, because that's not the way science works.

**Brian Keating** (3:38)
Do you think this is all a distraction? I mean, every time, every time there's a big release or hearing, it just, to me, it just winds up being a big, another fucking nothing burger.

**SPEAKER_3** (3:51)
I mean, have you heard anything that would make you, I mean, these are supposed to be some of the most consequential discoveries of all time, right? Things that could question and have caused people, literally, Shawn, to be burned at the stake, okay? 1600, Giordano Bruno, who was a priest in the Catholic Church in Italy, he proclaimed that every star you see in the heavens has a planet around it.

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