#2430 - Jay Anderson

**Jay Anderson** (0:02)
Joe Rogan Podcast, checking in.

**Joe Rogan** (0:03)
The Joe Rogan Experience.

**Jamie** (0:06)
Trained by day, Joe Rogan Podcast by night, all day.

**Joe Rogan** (0:12)
What's happening, man? Very nice to meet you.

**Jay Anderson** (0:14)
It is great to meet you as well, Joe. I really, really appreciate you taking me out here.

**Joe Rogan** (0:18)
Oh, my pleasure. I've enjoyed your content for quite a while now, so it's really fun.

**Jay Anderson** (0:22)
Well, I'd be interested to know when was it that you first started getting interested in what I was doing? What kind of subject, what topic?

**Joe Rogan** (0:28)
I wish I remembered.

**Jay Anderson** (0:30)
Because I know you followed me for a couple of years. It was before the Cathra Pyramid scans and stuff. You know I'm into the UFO subject and things like that, but I wasn't sure.

**Joe Rogan** (0:37)
Well, it's all the silly shit that I love. Silly and serious at the same time. Ancient civilizations, mysteries, and obviously aliens.

**Jay Anderson** (0:47)
Oh, yeah. And it's all cotangent. It all connects together.

**Joe Rogan** (0:50)
I think so too. We actually played a clip. We did a podcast yesterday with Dr. Michael Masters.

**Jay Anderson** (0:56)
Love him. Yeah, I've talked to him a couple of times.

**Joe Rogan** (0:58)
He was very fun, very smart guy, very interesting guy. But we played, we were talking about the... He has a theory that aliens are human beings in the future.

**Jay Anderson** (1:07)
Yeah.

**Joe Rogan** (1:07)
It's a very strange theory.

**Jay Anderson** (1:10)
Based on like kind of the anthropological view and the physiology and how that might have happened over time.

**Joe Rogan** (1:15)
And there's also, what was the model? There's the many worlds theory, and then what was his model? There's a different one. That the concept is you could, if you lived in the future, you could go back in time and it would not affect the future because everything that's supposed to happen has already happened. And you were supposed to go back anyway.

**Jay Anderson** (1:32)
Interesting. Okay.

**Joe Rogan** (1:35)
I'm trying to get my head. But anyway, during that time, I asked him about the Tridactyl mummies, and then we played your clip.

**Jay Anderson** (1:42)
Oh, okay.

**Joe Rogan** (1:43)
Yeah, we played the clip that showed all the scans. We talked about Jesse Michaels and how he went down to Peru and actually touched those things and was there with them and how surreal it was.

**Jay Anderson** (1:51)
Yeah, I was in Peru recently not to go and see the Nazca mummies. I wish I could have seen them. I was out there to look at all the megalithic studies and the excavations going on at Sacsayhuaman, which is an incredible megalithic site in Cusco. But the Nazca mummies, I mean, what's interesting about it is that obviously you're going to have a big knee-jerk reaction to something that's so incredibly profound as the idea of these being non-human intelligences that are mummified. But when you actually look at the CT scans and the X-rays, you start to realize that this can't be fake. You can't fake bone cartilage. You can't fake capillaries and heart valves and a fetus inside the body.
So dude, it's crazy. Some of them have eggs inside them. Some of them have fetuses.

**Joe Rogan** (2:31)
It looks like the eggs are big.

**Jay Anderson** (2:32)
Big eggs inside them. These are small beings. These ones are meant to be like the little kind of like 60 centimeter beings with like three eggs inside them. Then you got the big one, Montserrat, which has an actual fetus, like a baby not in an egg. So it's like, if these are all real, it does feel like there was some sort of genetic experimentation going on, where they're just churning out prototypes of some form.

**Joe Rogan** (2:55)
Do you think that's it, or do you think that there used to be another type of, for lack of a better word, primate?

**Jay Anderson** (3:02)
Well, the thing is...

**Joe Rogan** (3:03)
Is that a primate? I mean, what is that?

**Jay Anderson** (3:05)
I mean, some of them, they're leaning more towards like reptilian, anthropod kind of lineage. So like the bigger ones seem to be more mammalian, whereas the smaller ones with the eggs are sharing reptilian traits. So it's like there are all these different variations with these different bodies, different kind of like physiological characteristics, which is why it's like, okay, well, is this one lineage, or is this just someone kind of like tweaking, all right, well, that one failed, that one's not working, this one grew wings, right, fuck that one off. Like, you know, it's just weird.